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Re: Essex EGP 155 or Yamaha GB1K?
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The sostenuto pedal is a better pedal to start with than the damper pedal. Proper use of the damper pedal is almost always the same as the sostenuto pedal: play the note, then press the pedal. The sostenuto pedal will only work that way, while the damper pedal will also work if you press the pedal first, but that results in a muddy sound. So a sostenuto pedal is desirable. Only the cost, complexity, and tradition has made it less available. But ultimately, the decision is up to the buyer.

If I were to offer options on pedals, the one that I would leave off is the soft pedal. Of the three commonly used pedals, that one is the least consistent, and the least useful. Maybe I should say four commonly used pedal. The bass sustain is more useful than the soft pedal, too.


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Re: Essex EGP 155 or Yamaha GB1K?
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If this is the long term piano, then I'd probably get one with the pedal. Actually, if this was the long-term/permanent piano, I probably wouldn't get either of these pianos.

Re: Essex EGP 155 or Yamaha GB1K?
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Sure we aren't mixing up the sostenuto and the sustain pedal? Otherwise most uprights would be useless because they typically don't have a sostenuto pedal

Wim - Those are grands.

Of course, I was asking since older grands (top tier) more regularly lack a edit: sustain sostenuto pedal. In any case I agree that these piano's might not be the best choices and would prefer to have a sostenuto pedal when shopping for a grand..

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Re: Essex EGP 155 or Yamaha GB1K?
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...lack a sustain pedal?!? I'm confused, how do all the dampers go up then? That is the most important pedal.

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typo wink Sostenuto. Bl├╝thners, Bechsteins, Steinways, plenty of 'm without sostenuto pedal.

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If I could pass on any advice after recently purchasing another piano it would be buy what you think you might like in a few years, not what will "do" for now. If piano is something your daughter intends to keep at, purchase a good quality product now. I tried the GB1K and was not as impressed as I had hoped. It was OK, but not fabulous. I did purchase a Ritmuller UH 132 after trying out many others including Essex, Kawai, Hailun, Yamaha U1 and new U3. Boston was out of my price range. I love my Ritmuller UH 132, and would have loved the small Ritmuller GB148 and the 170 sounded wonderful to me. I will stress I liked the sound, and the price. But there are lots of great pianos out there. I also loved the Yamaha U3 for an upright. Really either of these pianos for a beginner will be fine, and if you love the GB1K and it works for you, buy what fits your wallet. A lot of this will be personal preference. Look at Larry Fine's online book for reviews. I bought what I could afford at a few years ago and then upgraded and hopefully someday when I have more space will upgrade again. Welcome to Piano World and as you may have noticed there are many here with strong opinions, but also much knowledge and expertise. Are there any "bad" pianos out there for a beginner? The piano review books state that most manufacturers are making pretty decent products, it depends on your budget, space, and what sound you prefer. Hailun is another piano that has some good reviews. Check them out too. Good luck!

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