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#2292768 - 06/20/14 08:48 PM Glove makes you play like Beethoven!  
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That's the idea anyway. I did find the article interesting.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/20/this-glove-makes-you-beethoven/?ncid=rss

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#2292773 - 06/20/14 09:08 PM Re: Glove makes you play like Beethoven! [Re: Bamburg]  
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Interesting but not likely to revolutionize the learning of music as this is just a device to stimulate muscle memory. From what I have read muscle memory is the least reliable and most easily forgotten method in learning.

However never say never, I want a few of the technological marvels promised in the 70's to come true. If I can't have a flying car then waking up to find I can play Chopin Ballade No 1 will do.


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#2292777 - 06/20/14 09:33 PM Re: Glove makes you play like Beethoven! [Re: Bamburg]  
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That's not how people learn, or should learn, to feel what piano playing is like. Piano isn't so much with the fingers, but the movement and alignment of the arm, in connection to the musical patterns on the keyboard. If one doesn't recognise the patterns, or the alignment of the body, then the multiple redundancies in the brain are not in place.

It probably could be applied to learning, but the article was too much hype.


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#2292786 - 06/20/14 10:01 PM Re: Glove makes you play like Beethoven! [Re: Bamburg]  
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I agree. This seems like a gimmick to me. I could see it maybe, MAYBE, being useful for playing and instrument like the recorder where your hands basically stay in the same position. But, it seems to me that at best it would help you memorize a few songs by rote. I suspect it would not be helpful for teaching you to read, or training your ear. But for something as complex a motor skill as playing the piano, count me highly dubious that this has much pedagogical value.


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#2292797 - 06/20/14 10:15 PM Re: Glove makes you play like Beethoven! [Re: Bamburg]  
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I didn't think it would be terribly useful for learning in its current form, just that it was a neat concept. Even if it did work well I don't think I'd personally use it, it seems almost like cheating. Where would be the sense of accomplishment?

#2293199 - 06/21/14 08:48 PM Re: Glove makes you play like Beethoven! [Re: Bamburg]  
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I would be afraid it would hurt me..lol.


"Imagine it in all its primatic colorings, its counterpart in our souls - our souls that are great pianos whose strings, of honey and of steel, the divisions of the rainbow set twanging, loosing on the air great novels of adventure!" - William Carlos Williams
#2293224 - 06/21/14 10:18 PM Re: Glove makes you play like Beethoven! [Re: Bamburg]  
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So it gives your finger a little buzz when it's time to play a note?

I can imagine something even more elegant and useful: something that would tell you not just what finger to use, but what note to play. Maybe even with some direction about volume level of the sound, and how the note is related to other notes in the piece. Something visual would be a good idea so as not to limit the pianist to the exact moment when that note should be played -- you could look ahead at notes coming up, or you could glance over the whole piece quickly to gain a sense of larger relationships.

If only it could be printed in black ink on white paper, it would be quite inexpensive and easy to manufacture too!
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#2293343 - 06/22/14 08:49 AM Re: Glove makes you play like Beethoven! [Re: Bamburg]  
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#2293425 - 06/22/14 12:59 PM Re: Glove makes you play like Beethoven! [Re: Bamburg]  
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Maybe they could modify it and have it buzz when you make a mistake, like a shock collar for your hand.


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#2293431 - 06/22/14 01:33 PM Re: Glove makes you play like Beethoven! [Re: Bamburg]  
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Obviously the article leaves out far too many details, but I don't see how this could "teach" someone with no piano background how to play the piano. How is the person going to be able to play once the device is not being worn? From this short article, I don't see that as possible.

Now maybe if it's someone who can already play, and then the device is supposed to help them improve, or correct back habits, that might be possible. (Like the description of using it to improve pitching technique).

You know, the article mentioned the movie the Matrix. The only problem with that comparison is that in the Matrix, the information was loaded into the person's brain. We don't play the piano with our fingers, we play with our brains.

Sorry, I know I'm taking this way too seriously... better get back to work over here! laugh


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