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#2289032 - 06/12/14 06:11 PM Monitors for Kawai VPC1  
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I'm starting to collect info about a tentative setting for the Kawai VPC1.
Monitor wise, after reading some posts and reviews on Amazon, I narrowed down my choice to a few monitor models and brands. They all fall in the 100 (each) price bracket: any recommendation??

-Tannoy Reveal
-KRK RP5 G3
-M-Audio BX5
-PRESONUS ERIS E5
-JBL LSR305
-Alesis M1 Active 320 USB Studio Monitors


Thanx in advance :-)


Last edited by Emiliano; 06/13/14 03:33 AM.
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#2289450 - 06/13/14 07:46 PM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Emiliano]  
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I've had KRK Rokits (a previous generation) and the M-Audios. I liked the Rokits better and they had a MUCH better build quality. Hope that helps.

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#2289533 - 06/14/14 04:51 AM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Emiliano]  
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You might go to the gearslutz forum to ask this. Go into the low end forum.

I don't remember enough from when I was looking at monitors. Can't advise you.
I can say that I ran across a trend of building low end monitors that had drawn out bass like boom boxes. The reason was that people bought them. They liked them. They aren't realistic.
If you go to gearslutz. Don't look for advise from people who are doing rap and all that bass overdone stuff like hip hop. Look for advise from people who say their mixes translate well.
Beware of those who are pushing something for a hidden agenda.

I have two pair of monitors.
The cheap ones aren't bad at all. You're probably more familiar with the Prodipe name than I am. It's European. I have a pair of their ribbon 8's. They claimed that every once in a while Prodipe turns out a real gem. This is probably one of them, for the price. They're not made anymore.
I have a good pair of Event Studio Precision 8's. They have an achilles heal. They need a heat sink on the back like the newer 20/20's have. They sound very good. I consider these a base benchmark of excellence. The prodipes are probably 90% of these.

You might look at used? You'd need to do much homework and beware though.

Remember that the inexpensive monitors are that for a reason.


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#2289552 - 06/14/14 07:02 AM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Emiliano]  
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I, also, cannot advise on the particular ones you listed.

I can suggest this ...

Do your homework as best you can, which coming here for advice is a step in the right direction.

Then purchase the best one you can afford.

Generally, the higher the price, the higher the quality. Not always, of course, but the exception is difficult to find and you can go broke searching for it.

Buying monitors (and speakers) is similar, in nature, to buyer digital pianos or software pianos or any other electronic equipment.

... a better option is always just around the corner.

You can go broke trying for that "better" option.

After your research, make a decision, buy it and forget about it. If you did not go for "cheap", you should be just fine.

It may not turn out to be just exactly perfect in all areas but it will not be the reason you sound "bad" or "good" when you play. The time you spend at the keyboard, practicing, will be the culprit there.

Good Luck




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#2289689 - 06/14/14 03:01 PM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Emiliano]  
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Since your in the UK you could try gear4music. They have a returns policy that allows you try the monitors out and still be able to return them for a refund if you inform them in the first week. Have a look at the terms and conditions
www.gear4music.com


I've already tried out one pair of monitors (Fostex PM841) which I returned after using them for a week and got refunded for. The Fostex were quite good but too big and heavy for my liking. I'll be trying out something else from the same store soon. Maybe the Roland CM110 or CM220.

#2289814 - 06/14/14 07:20 PM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Enthusiast]  
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Originally Posted by Enthusiast
Since your in the UK you could try gear4music. They have a returns policy that allows you try the monitors out and still be able to return them for a refund if you inform them in the first week. Have a look at the terms and conditions
www.gear4music.com


You do have to pay return shipping, right ?

That can be significant with heavy items.


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#2290117 - 06/15/14 01:55 PM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: dmd]  
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Originally Posted by Enthusiast
Since your in the UK you could try gear4music. They have a returns policy that allows you try the monitors out and still be able to return them for a refund if you inform them in the first week. Have a look at the terms and conditions
www.gear4music.com


You do have to pay return shipping, right ?

That can be significant with heavy items.


I only paid for the initial shipping which was 5. The return shipping was free as I informed them within the first week as per their rules. I was still able to have them for 2 weeks though I just let them know inside the first week.

#2290125 - 06/15/14 02:44 PM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Emiliano]  
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Originally Posted by Emiliano
I'm starting to collect info about a tentative setting for the Kawai VPC1.
Monitor wise, after reading some posts and reviews on Amazon, I narrowed down my choice to a few monitor models and brands. They all fall in the 100 (each) price bracket: any recommendation??

-Tannoy Reveal
-KRK RP5 G3
-M-Audio BX5
-PRESONUS ERIS E5
-JBL LSR305
-Alesis M1 Active 320 USB Studio Monitors


Thanx in advance :-)




At home I use the PreSonus Eris E5 with the PreSonus Temblor T10 sub and sounds wonderful. Best part is ZERO hiss and not too expensive for amazing sound system on both my RD800 and ES7. Im assume this PreSonus setup/combo would sound as good with any VST but have not tried it yet.



KAWAI ES7 | ROLAND RD-800 | YAMAHA CP4 | YAMAHA STAGEPAS 400i | PRESONUS R65 & T10 | SHURE SRH1540 | SENNHEISER HD650 | K&M OMEGA
#2290126 - 06/15/14 02:55 PM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Marko in Boston]  
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Originally Posted by Marko in Boston
Originally Posted by Emiliano
I'm starting to collect info about a tentative setting for the Kawai VPC1.
Monitor wise, after reading some posts and reviews on Amazon, I narrowed down my choice to a few monitor models and brands. They all fall in the 100 (each) price bracket: any recommendation??

-Tannoy Reveal
-KRK RP5 G3
-M-Audio BX5
-PRESONUS ERIS E5
-JBL LSR305
-Alesis M1 Active 320 USB Studio Monitors


Thanx in advance :-)




At home I use the PreSonus Eris E5 with the PreSonus Temblor T10 sub and sounds wonderful. Best part is ZERO hiss and not too expensive for amazing sound system on both my RD800 and ES7. Im assume this PreSonus setup/combo would sound as good with any VST but have not tried it yet.



Presonus Eris E5 would certainly be a lot cheaper than some of the ones I was considering. How much is the subwoofer and how big is it? Maybe the sub wouldn't be necessary with the Eris E8? The frequency response seems to go down a lot lower and looking at the specs they weigh twice as much as the E5.

#2294453 - 06/24/14 05:05 PM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Emiliano]  
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Thank you all for the advices and I apologize for not replying earlier, but I just had to relocate from Belgium to the UK.
Anyway, I'm narrowing down the choice to KRK and Presonus: which one would be more suited for a VPC1 setup or, more in general, with DP?
Speaking of the KRK, I just noticed there are several good deals on ebay of used Rockit G2. The current models are Rockit G3: any major difference in terms of sound quality and clarity?

#2294789 - 06/25/14 10:48 AM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Emiliano]  
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I'm planning on getting a pair of JBL LSR308 and a LSR310S for my VPC1. I'm moving tomorrow, and then I can order everything ASAP!

#2294807 - 06/25/14 11:20 AM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: newbies]  
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Originally Posted by newbies
I'm planning on getting a pair of JBL LSR308 and a LSR310S for my VPC1. I'm moving tomorrow, and then I can order everything ASAP!


I have not heard them personally but they get great reviews and the price seems fair especially for 8" monitors:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LSR308/reviews
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LSR310S/reviews

Good luck if you go for it! That setup will certainly knock a few pictures off the wall.

Edit: dont forget to order monitor stands too if needed.


Last edited by Marko in Boston; 06/25/14 11:24 AM.

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#2294820 - 06/25/14 11:55 AM Re: Monitors for Kawai VPC1 [Re: Emiliano]  
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If your going with the subwoofer, I would choose the LSR305 instead of the 308's. The LS308 has a 37Hz low frequency response . There is considerable overlap in the low frequency with the sub 27hz to 80hz. Since you would be cutting out the frequencies below 80hz with the subs crossover, you don't need that low of a response. The LS305 has a 43Hz Low response which would give a little less overlap. You would hear a much more detailed mid range coming from the 5 inch speaker and save yourself some cash.

If your not buying the sub, then the LS308 would be the clear choice.

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