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Re: Roland RD 800 [Re: 27Jan] #2285228
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Geez, if I already owned an RD800 I would stick with the old "dangerous" power socket and not send it in for the repair. No way I want something hanging out of my keyboard when trying to move it or put it in a roadcase or bag. That represents a far greater danger than the socket ever did. This new "solution" totally sucks. The big question is: does Roland honour the warranty if you DON'T send it in for modification?

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To fix a chord permanently to the DP, is insane! Who's thinking this is a good idea at Roland?


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Originally Posted by ando
No way I want something hanging out of my keyboard when trying to move it or put it in a roadcase or bag. That represents a far greater danger than the socket ever did. This new "solution" totally sucks.


Agree. I would never send my RD800 if for that fix. I would only consider if they replaced mine with a new RD800 with a C14. But that would be a full blown recall which I doubt would ever happen. However, a class action lawsuit can keep this matter going for years if owners aren't satisfied with this fix. What a mess.


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Originally Posted by 36251
Who's thinking this is a good idea at Roland?


Their attorneys. Not musicians thats for sure.

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Re: Roland RD 800 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2285347
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Wow ! I don't think I can recall a "Pro" keyboard in all my years of buying electronic keyboards (46 years), one that is portable, that has had a non-detachable power cord. That's kinda nuts imo.

I wonder if this applies to just the European market or all US models too.

Even though if I purchased an RD800, it would be primarily for home use , with the very occasional solo gig (because of the drum features) - having that feature would be huge factor in swaying me against buying one.

I had a Jupiter 8 back in the day. Did that have a non-detachable power cord by any chance ? That's the only one , scanning my memory banks, that might've.

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I think we should wait for Jay to confirm this point before criticising Roland's solution.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
I think we should wait for Jay to confirm this point before criticising Roland's solution.


Amen. I've been thinking this all along, that we're seeing a lot of criticism based so far on hearsay evidence, without a link to any official site corroborating the "fix" without hearing from a Roland representative on this site. Let's not be hasty to judge!


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Originally Posted by Kawai James
I think we should wait for Jay to confirm this point before criticising Roland's solution.

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Originally Posted by 36251
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I think we should wait for Jay to confirm this point before criticising Roland's solution.

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Really..The 800 has been for out 6 months. There's how many pages in multiple threads here and KC discussing it ad nauseam. Along with all the videos posted. We all know what it sounds and plays like - or at least the majority of people that come here. It's a nice board.

So yeah, hopefully they'll have a fix that doesn't involve a permanent power cord. But this certainly qualifies as having the potential to have fairly ominous consequences. wink

Originally Posted by bgiles

I have had received clear confirmation from Roland UK that the new cable is permanently fixed to the keyboard.


In the meantime...what else do we have to talk about ? grin

We could talk Baseball- hey about my STL Cardinals ...are they stiffing big time right now or what ?! frown

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Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
In the meantime...what else do we have to talk about ? grin


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Re: Roland RD 800 [Re: Kawai James] #2285482
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Originally Posted by petes1
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I think we should wait for Jay to confirm this point before criticising Roland's solution.


Amen. I've been thinking this all along, that we're seeing a lot of criticism based so far on hearsay evidence, without a link to any official site corroborating the "fix" without hearing from a Roland representative on this site. Let's not be hasty to judge!


I have asked Roland UK twice to confirm my understanding of the proposed fix, here are the appropriate extracts from the e-mails...

bgiles:
Before the changes are made, I would like you to confirm something that wasn't made clear in the 'Recorded Delivery' letter sent 16th April.
Can the new AC cable be completely detached from the keyboard, to prevent damage from the wall plug during transportation?

Roland UK:
The point of the fix is to ensure that the cable isn’t inserted into the wrong socket. By detaching it, it then gives the end-user the chance to insert into the wrong socket and risk electrocution.

bgiles:
Thank you for your email, however I gather from your reply that the new mains cable is permanently attached to the keyboard, implying it cannot be removed for transportation of the keyboard.

Whilst I understand the reasons, if this is the case, as I carry my keyboard in a keyboard bag, there is a high risk that the wall plug at the end of the cable will damage the keyboard.

If there is no way of detaching the new lead from the keyboard, I do not want the modifications carried out. Instead I will continue to use rubber bungs in the 2 XLR sockets when they are not in use, and always cable up my own keyboard to ensure the mains lead only goes in the mains socket.

Roland UK:
I understand your request but we require that the cable is permanently attached to ensure the continued safe operation of your RD-800.

We advise that a unit should not be used unless the modification is attached.

bgiles:
Whist I understand that Roland want to implement this modification to 'ensure the continued safe operation of your RD-800', the modification, as proposed, is impractical for many users, as it would present the additional risks of standing on the attached cable whilst moving the keyboard, and possible damage to the keyboard during transportation.

For that reason, I am going to decline your offer to carry out the currently proposed modification.

Should Roland come up with an alternative modification, like sprung covers for the XLR outputs already suggested, or replacing the power input connector with a 3 pin IEC (60320) C13, as used on previous models, I would like to be notified.

I would however like you to confirm, that so long as I use the keyboard in accordance with the original warranty conditions, Roland will honour the standard 3 year warranty, even without the modification fitted. If that is not the case, I will have to consider retuning the keyboard for a full refund.

I must admit to being disappointed with Roland's solution to this potential safety issue, which may satisfy things from a liability perspective, but has given little though to the implications for the end users.


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I'm currently awaiting a response on the warranty cover should I not have the modification carried out.

It'll be interesting to see if the fix is already applied to keyboards that are now being sold, if so, there are going to be a lot of disappointed customers.

I can't speak for the US, but it would be very unusual to have a different fix per region.


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Seems like there would be even more of a safety issue on the gig. Mainly from tripping over the darn power cord while taking the 800 off the keyboard stand, coming off even a low stage and placing it in its case. crazy

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Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
Wow ! I don't think I can recall a "Pro" keyboard in all my years of buying electronic keyboards (46 years), one that is portable, that has had a non-detachable power cord. That's kinda nuts imo.

My Roland U20 had one. I say had, since it sprouted a C14 overnight once. Whether you'd classify it as pro though...

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Mine is being delivered tomorrow (uk) - yay. Not getting the cm-220 until July though. I know what I'll be doing tomorrow night

In theory we should see what customers are receiving shortly. However, could the first batch be fixes carried out by shops holding stock?

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Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
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I think we should wait for Jay to confirm this point before criticising Roland's solution.

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Really..The 800 has been for out 6 months. There's how many pages in multiple threads here and KC discussing it ad nauseam. Along with all the videos posted. We all know what it sounds and plays like - or at least the majority of people that come here. It's a nice board.

So yeah, hopefully they'll have a fix that doesn't involve a permanent power cord. But this certainly qualifies as having the potential to have fairly ominous consequences. wink

Originally Posted by bgiles

I have had received clear confirmation from Roland UK that the new cable is permanently fixed to the keyboard.


In the meantime...what else do we have to talk about ? grin

We could talk Baseball- hey about my STL Cardinals ...are they stiffing big time right now or what ?! frown

And the season's a third over and we still can't get Dodger games on cable tv here in LA due the impasse between the Dodgers and Time Warner Cable/Sports net.. cry

We could talk about Donald Sterling but that's old news.. sleep


I get your point, but with all do respect, this is a RD800 thread and this topic should be discussed as much as possible. When you spend a hard earned $2,500 on a brand new piano and hear there is some ambiguous fix or part that needs to be address AND Roland Corp suggesting that you temporarily suspend using your RD-800... well, it's disheartening and frustrating. Yes the issue might be minor, but the value and warranty might be at risk. That is still important when it comes time to sell or trade your board if needed.

Look, Im the first to joke about this whole matter. But RD800 is an important tool for me more than just enjoyment. So I really do want to get to the bottom of this and the fact it has been dragged out for two months with no clues is ridiculous. I've been down this road before with exchanging DPs due to quality control issues. Yes, the problem gets resolved to my satisfaction in the end, but it's a huge hassle and waste of time going through the process. The RD800 has no quality issues but rather a design issue. I still might have to go down the same path for the proper fix simply just to maintain the value and warranty and im not happy about it.

So, I know this topic has been beaten to death, but good! Keep beating it to death until resolved. Let the rumors and speculation fly. Maybe that will make Roland speak up instead of leaving a crappy warning and disclaimer on their website for two months. Apparently somebody must have "suggested" to Roland that they "temporarily suspend" communicating about this topic. Shame on us for having to call and email them. The should keep us owners involved every step of the way. Notify each owner after every meeting they have with their engineers and attorneys. Maybe, just maybe, the owners might have some helpful input for a resolution. We are the ones using your product in the real world, not you Roland.



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Wow, now that's fighting talk!

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Wow, now that's fighting talk!

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HA! I did not mean it as fighting talk, but rather more like this....

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Hello all. To update you,

I have been working with our retailers and end users in Canada making sure that they have the modification kits and the install instructions. That's why I've been quiet here lately. With normal day to day work, and some travel mixed in, Piano World must fall a long way down my priority list. PWF is an activity I engage in on my own time and not during work hours. As I said when I joined, my primary focus is Roland Piano products in Canada, servicing our retailers and end users.

There is a ladder tie provided with the kits that allows the cable to bound in a neat wrap so there's not a power cord dangling all over the place. It should also preclude any damage to the unit during transport when used as instructed. We in Canada have worked hard to maintain pretty good communication with our retailers and end users throughout this painful process.

All of our units in Canada now have the modification installed from our warehouse. All future shipments from the factory to us will be modified too from what i understand. At this point I can safely say that almost every unit in stock at any retailer is probably updated too, and is back out on the floor for sale.

I will check to see what our warranty implications are for Canadians if anyone (although no one has) refuses the offer of the modification kit. And when I have time, I'll add an update to this post.

Jay

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I used to own Roland KC amps which have attached power cords. There were times when ground pulled out and I was forced to go to store and buy an ugly replacement plug. Hated that experience!

I wonder if engineer that designed RD800 is still working at Roland? Don't the Japanese executives that screw up, end up jumping off something tall?


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Originally Posted by Jay Roland
Hello all. To update you,

I have been working with our retailers and end users in Canada making sure that they have the modification kits and the install instructions. That's why I've been quiet here lately. With normal day to day work, and some travel mixed in, Piano World must fall a long way down my priority list. PWF is an activity I engage in on my own time and not during work hours. As I said when I joined, my primary focus is Roland Piano products in Canada, servicing our retailers and end users.

There is a ladder tie provided with the kits that allows the cable to bound in a neat wrap so there's not a power cord dangling all over the place. It should also preclude any damage to the unit during transport when used as instructed. We in Canada have worked hard to maintain pretty good communication with our retailers and end users throughout this painful process.

All of our units in Canada now have the modification installed from our warehouse. All future shipments from the factory to us will be modified too from what i understand. At this point I can safely say that almost every unit in stock at any retailer is probably updated too, and is back out on the floor for sale.

I will check to see what our warranty implications are for Canadians if anyone (although no one has) refuses the offer of the modification kit. And when I have time, I'll add an update to this post.

Jay


Jay, I appreciate you feedback and the attention you pay to PW. Sorry to see you in the middle of this. But why cant we see modification kit and the install instructions? What is the big secret? Why is it not posted on Roland's website? Why have owners not been notified the fix is out?


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Originally Posted by Jay Roland
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There is a ladder tie provided with the kits that allows the cable to bound in a neat wrap so there's not a power cord dangling all over the place. It should also preclude any damage to the unit during transport when used as instructed.


Thank you too Jay for your input.

In the US & Canada, the round pins of your wall plugs are less likely to cause damage during transportation.

In the UK, we have a 3 square pin plug with pronounced corners.

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Whenever I have had to include this in a bag carrying a keyboard, damage to the keyboard has occurred.

The bottom line is that I purchased a keyboard with a detachable mains lead, and I feel I am being forced by Roland to have a attached mains lead, just because of a 'potential safety issue'.

There are other options, like installing sprung XLR covers, or just a prominent warning label, were these ever considered?

I agree with many on this forum who would be put off purchasing a flagship 'Stage Piano' with an attached mains lead, irrespective of how good it is.

Another thing is that the international travelling musician is going to have to use the attached lead, with a plug adaptor, whenever they perform in a country with a different plug system, rather than change the lead for a local one.


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Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
Wow ! I don't think I can recall a "Pro" keyboard in all my years of buying electronic keyboards (46 years), one that is portable, that has had a non-detachable power cord.

Really? I've had plenty. It used to be very common. Even classic pro boards like the MiniMoog and DX7 had permanently attached power cords. I'm not sure I ever saw detachable cords until some time in the 80s.

But, yeah, it's been a while. Off-hand, the newest board I had that I can think of that had a permanent power cord was a Roland JV-90, 1993.

One thing I'll say though is that the permanent cords were better than wall warts!

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Originally Posted by bgiles
In the US & Canada, the round pins of your wall plugs are less likely to cause damage during transportation.

In the UK, we have a 3 square pin plug with pronounced corners.

I've often received products with a little clear plastic cover over the electric prongs. I wonder if you could locate something like that to put over the prongs during transport. (Or maybe Roland will even supply one?) Failing that, you could probably create a protector out of a little piece of styrofoam.

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Originally Posted by bgiles
Another thing is that the international travelling musician is going to have to use the attached lead, with a plug adaptor, whenever they perform in a country with a different plug system, rather than change the lead for a local one.


It's possible that the musician will simply hire an instrument from a back-line supply company for that leg of the tour, and load all their settings/performance data etc. from a USB stick.

However, on the topic of international shipping, I'm curious as to what online retailers such as Thomann.de will do. What kind of power plug will be attached to an RD-800 purchased in Germany but shipped to a customer in the UK?

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
However, on the top of international shipping, I'm curious as to what online retailers such as Thomann.de will do. What kind of power plug will be attached to an RD-800 purchased in Germany but shipped to a customer in the UK?

I was just thinking the same myself, seeing as I'm considering ordering.

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Originally Posted by anotherscott

I've often received products with a little clear plastic cover over the electric prongs. I wonder if you could locate something like that to put over the prongs during transport. (Or maybe Roland will even supply one?) Failing that, you could probably create a protector out of a little piece of styrofoam.


I do use plastic covers for the pins of UK plugs, but I carry my keyboard, connection edge down, in a custom made padded bag.

I can just envisage that no matter have carefully the cable is bound, even if wrapped, when I place the bag down on the connection edge, the plug, being sandwiched at the bottom, is going to damage something.

Why can't Roland just make the cable detachable 'at the owners risk'?


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Re: Roland RD 800 [Re: Cessquill] #2285562
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
However, on the top of international shipping, I'm curious as to what online retailers such as Thomann.de will do. What kind of power plug will be attached to an RD-800 purchased in Germany but shipped to a customer in the UK?

When I last ordered from Thomann.de, the equipment came with European plug to C14 leads, so was easy to swap with UK leads.

In the case of the RD-800, you'll have to use a plug adaptor on an already big European plug in order to not invalidate the warranty.


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Re: Roland RD 800 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2285574
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Originally Posted by Marko in Boston

Jay, I appreciate you feedback and the attention you pay to PW. Sorry to see you in the middle of this. But why cant we see modification kit and the install instructions? What is the big secret? Why is it not posted on Roland's website? Why have owners not been notified the fix is out?


That's up to the individual country and the processes put in place to do the notifications. As to not posting on the website, I don't know. There's no secret.


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Originally Posted by Jay Roland
Originally Posted by Marko in Boston

Jay, I appreciate you feedback and the attention you pay to PW. Sorry to see you in the middle of this. But why cant we see modification kit and the install instructions? What is the big secret? Why is it not posted on Roland's website? Why have owners not been notified the fix is out?


That's up to the individual country and the processes put in place to do the notifications. As to not posting on the website, I don't know. There's no secret.


Jay, is there anything stopping you from posting a pic right here on Pianoworld for us to see? I don't think it's too much of an ask when you are part of this community and you have been personally requested to do so. This issue is causing a great degree of angst with owners and potential buyers alike and has the potential to be a deal-breaker in terms of making the decision to buy an RD 800. I would have thought at least part of your purpose in belonging to this forum as the "Roland guy" is to help people out with such queries. I certainly don't think leaving it up to individual Roland websites to do it is going to cut it. There's no way Roland is going to document something that is far from optimal on their promotional material - and in case you haven't noticed, all Roland international sites take their cues from the US site. If we won't see it there, we won't see it anywhere.

So, it comes down to whomever can actually get their hands on this modification and who will be the first to post it here. For the sake of good customer relations, I think it would be great if it were you, Jay. That sort of goodwill is enough to get people back on side and considering the RD 800 again. Until there is some evidence of the mod, a lot of people won't even bother to check out the RD 800. You can count me among them. I've previously considered getting in the car and taking the 45 min trip to my nearest Roland dealer to try the RD 800, but the verbal description of this mod is enough to make me postpone that until I see a pic of it. A reluctance to post pictures of this mod makes it sound like it's something to keep hidden - definitely not the impression you want to be creating when a new product has had a troubled introduction to the marketplace.

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Potentially some good news for existing owners...

After advising Roland UK that I did not want to have the modification carried out, they have confirmed that my 3 year warranty is still valid.

In my email asking about the warranty, I was quite happy to advise them that "I will continue to use my RD-800 in a safe and diligent manner, and will not hold Roland in any way liable should I inadvertently insert the mains lead into the XLR socket."

Maybe this was enough to persuade them to let it go in my case?

I suppose, those of us who are happy to relinquish Roland of any liability for our own negligence or stupidity with regards to this safety issue, can choose not to have the modification done without any consequences.

New buyers however may be stuck with it.

I feel that this particular solution may well have a big impact on future sales of the RD-800.


Roland RD-800, RD-700, SRX-02, SRX-04, SRX-07, SRX-11, EV-5
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It must be possible for people to reject the change and retain the warranty, surely.

What if you'd spend £250 on a custom flightcase? Presumably the fix would render the RD-800 unable to fit.

EDIT: bgiles has confirmed this for existing owners.

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