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Re: Pianoteq 5
mariof #2279187 05/21/14 10:30 AM
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Does it automatically overwrite Version 4.5 upon installation?

Can Versions 5 and 4.5 co-exist on the same system?

Will downloading the demo change anything on your existing 4.5 installation/set-up?

(Needless to say, I'm very careful about upgrading. I don't want to "fix" anything that isn't broken. I'm pretty satisfied with 4.5 Stage, and don't want to do anything to mess it up. That said, if Version 5 is a big improvement, I'm interested.)

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I've upgraded to 5 and installed it. I had time to try the upgrade for 30 minutes, using my AG N2 (remember, folks, map approx velocity-105 on the N2 to velocity-127 on Pianoteq -- the N2 has a lot of upper velocity "headroom"). Pianoteq is a superb practice instrument -- much more dynamically expressive than the AG's internal sound. When you play softly, you hear very realistic additional noises (hammer noise, action noise, damper noise); when you play loudly, the hammer voicing changes (brightens) very realistically. PT 5 seems to have a more realistic, richer tenor section than 4 -- so there is obvious sonic improvement. But, bottom line, for classical digital piano practice, Pianoteq 5 is the way to go, given the gear I have, because it is very expressive. I did not pipe PT 5 into the AG's internal speakers. I may get around to trying that over the weekend.


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Originally Posted by mariof
I've just upgraded to V5 (std edition).

I heard some piano midi files and am already blown away... can't wait to try it with a keyboard!!!

It is truly awesome!! The upgrade only costs 29€ and it not only upgrades the current instruments and addons that you already own but also gives you another instrument: the fantastic K2!

KUDOS for Modartt!!!



As far as I can see the new K2 is an add-on product; you don't get it for free.

Re: Pianoteq 5
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Originally Posted by Tiger22
As far as I can see the new K2 is an add-on product; you don't get it for free.


It's badly explained on the website, you get it when you upgrade, or at least i got it.

When as a new customer you buy a version of Pianoteq5, you have to choose your included pianos.


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Originally Posted by newbert
Does it automatically overwrite Version 4.5 upon installation?

No
Originally Posted by newbert

Can Versions 5 and 4.5 co-exist on the same system?

Yes, which is cool.
Originally Posted by newbert

Will downloading the demo change anything on your existing 4.5 installation/set-up?

No
Originally Posted by newbert

(Needless to say, I'm very careful about upgrading. I don't want to "fix" anything that isn't broken. I'm pretty satisfied with 4.5 Stage, and don't want to do anything to mess it up. That said, if Version 5 is a big improvement, I'm interested.)

Thanks.

It is definitely an improvement, though how "big" is a bit subjective. I am no pianoteq fan, but I have a lot of admiration for what this company is achieving.


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Re: Pianoteq 5
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Well, I just got a nice surprise. It looks like if you've bought Pianoteq recently (rumors say in the past year?) then you get the upgrade to 5 for free.

I bought Pianoteq 4.5 this past December, and just checked and was able to download 5 from my account page.


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Originally Posted by Tiger22
As far as I can see the new K2 is an add-on product; you don't get it for free.


On the order page, you have a choice of 3 packages. The acoustic package includes the D4 and K2. If you pick the electric piano or chromatic package, the K2 then costs money to add.

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Just listening to the U4 demo "J. Felice Toccatavan" under the Pop/Jazz/Blues. Has anyone listened to this particular demo? It sounds very harsh to me, I have not yet upgraded from V3 yet. Maybe it sounds better to play on the keyboard...

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Just upgraded this morning but haven't had a chance to try it out.. Has anyone had a chance to try the bluthner addon with pteq 5?

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Tiger22: I had automatic access to D4 and K2...

Gatsbee13: I own the Blüthner module and it sounds fantastic, but then again, I've only listened to piano midi files...
I'll comment later after having the opportunity to play it myself.

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Originally Posted by Deffie
Well, I just got a nice surprise. It looks like if you've bought Pianoteq recently (rumors say in the past year?) then you get the upgrade to 5 for free.

I bought Pianoteq 4.5 this past December, and just checked and was able to download 5 from my account page.


Well, since I purchased Pianoteq in mid-July last year, I'll have to try his out.

I hope you're right!


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Re: Pianoteq 5
newbert #2279342 05/21/14 05:37 PM
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I loaded 5 from my download page too. I think you have about 14 months after buying 4.5 before you have to cough up cash . . . Mine exhibited my default settings. But I had to reinstall 4.5 since 5 came as a plug in. So now I have both but only one will get used.


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Hi,

I upgraded to the new version... after playing a couple of hours, in my opinion it is an improvement over the 4.5. Not a big improvement, but subtle and reasonable... and subtleties and nuances are very important when piano sound is involved wink.

Here goes my small review. That is just my personal opinion. It's not true or false... it's not factual... just my first impressions:

The D4 seems to be the most improved piano (at least for my ears) over the one in the last version. It's hard to describe... it just sounds better than before...

The U4 sounds very good also, and this is the one I used usually with 4.5 version. Yes, it is an upright, and grands are better than uprights I know, but for some reason I liked the U4 over the D4 in version 4.5... it sounded more natural to me. The U4 in v5 sounds very similar to me to the one on 4.5 version. I guess that, being the last piano brought to Pianoteq, it already sported some of the improvements that have been now brought to the D4.

The K2 is the big novelty. Most of the time I've been playing this one. It sounds quite nice... bass is very nice and deep... definitely it's a grand piano, but attacks around C5-C6 sounded a bit 'bell-like' (maybe the worst octave on Pianoteq?)... but after some tweaks I've got what seems will be the new preset of choice when using Pianoteq.

Unfortunately I don't have the Bluethner and some times I've thought in getting it. I've tried the demo and overall, I like how it sounds... again, attacks could be better.

Pianoteq v5 is not revolutionary, but it is an evolution, and that is good. It is still not there in terms of pure sound, compared to sampled pianos, but has advanced some steps in the right direction. And playability is as good as ever...

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Re: Pianoteq 5
Cessquill #2279421 05/21/14 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cessquill
Forgive my ignorance on this - I've been dipping in and out of Pianoteq for a while, and have had the trial installed for ages. Just wondering where it gets used in the real world...

Is it for home use/rehearsing?
Studio work?
Do people use it live?


All of the above.

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Originally Posted by newbert
Originally Posted by Deffie
Well, I just got a nice surprise. It looks like if you've bought Pianoteq recently (rumors say in the past year?) then you get the upgrade to 5 for free.

I bought Pianoteq 4.5 this past December, and just checked and was able to download 5 from my account page.


Well, since I purchased Pianoteq in mid-July last year, I'll have to try his out.

I hope you're right!


Yup - I got the upgrade free as well! According to the info displayed onscreen when "Checking for Updates" from within Pianoteq, the upgrade to Version 5 is free for anyone who purchased their version of Pianoteq after March 1, 2013.

Well done, Modart!


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Originally Posted by newbert

Yup - I got the upgrade free as well! According to the info displayed onscreen when "Checking for Updates" from within Pianoteq, the upgrade to Version 5 is free for anyone who purchased their version of Pianoteq after March 1, 2013.

Well done, Modart!


I purchased mine on 2nd March 2013, was pleasantly surprised to see the free upgrade on my account. I would have been happy to pay for it.

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Very nice!!! Free update for those that bought it even more than a year ago. Now that's forthcoming.

New (at least in Standard) :
"all instruments brought up-to-date"
choosable between 15 different types of mics.
K2 (K1 is gone)
Additional Kremsegg collection
...among other smaller updates.

Great software, great company, great service.

https://www.pianoteq.com/pianoteq5





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Great post Phil, I enjoyed your review, very much. Fantastic job.

I upgraded yesterday and had the opportunity to play a little and, in my opinion, the upgrade is mandatory. The upgrade cost (for anyone that buyed a license before March 2013) is very reasonable and the improvement in the sound across all pianos more than justifies it.

Kudos for Modartt! Pianoteq v5 is awesome!!!


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