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MarkS: Thanks for the encouraging words. The tuner is coming tomorrow to address a persistent sticking (not returning) una corda problem. I'll ask him about voicing the bass area in question.
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Originally posted by Pianoray:
The same lower range sounds "richer" and far more inspiring to play on the Young Chang. The action is not quite as nice as the Petrof's but overall I honestly think I would have been happier with the YC. Now to be fair about it, the YC is a 7' (model ??) PG213 probably. Please be mindful that the acoustic environments (your house, and the dealer) are most likely different. What a difference a room makes!!  A great tech can bring out the best in your instrument by doing numerous things including: Voicing/tuning Action regulation Seating the strings Adjusting the glides These tasks can make a word of difference on your instrument, provided any or all of these things need to be done.
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" A great tech can bring out the best in your instrument including................................." ...........glueing back "11 broken hammers from factory".... norbert 
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Originally posted by Pianoray:
Hi All,
This is not exactly on topic but since the topic has roamed slightly and since "The Who" refered to Young Chang being sold competitively against Petrof and Estonia, I decided to comment. I recently purchased a new Petrof model IV (5'8") And though It has a beautiful treble range, I am not as satisfied with its range starting at "C" below middle "C" and extending down. I have been back to the dealer several times to buy music and accessories and never miss the opportunity to try other pianos on the floor. I have been particularly impressed with a Young Chang and even prefer it somewhat over my Petrof. The same lower range sounds "richer" and far more inspiring to play on the Young Chang. The action is not quite as nice as the Petrof's but overall I honestly think I would have been happier with the YC. Now to be fair about it, the YC is a 7' (model ??) However, when I compare the prices on the two, the Petrof has a tag of 26K and the YC 16K! (I paid 16.5K for the Petrof. I assume the YC would go for somewhere around 12K). I guess what I'm trying to say is that the YC would yield far more joy per dollar. If your wondering why I bought the Petrof - It was a compromise based upon my wifes desire for an acceptable appearance (Demi Chipendale) and my desire for a nice sounding instrument. One of the major effects of the design changes in the Pramberger Series is an increase in low- and mid-range harmonics. This is dominantly due to the increase in the mass of the soundboard of about 33%. You just may like these harmonics better than the Petrof. Some do, others don't. BTW, Norbert. It looks like, when asked to back up his statements The Who split! I have a feeling he/she will be back again under another name.
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The "boo-hoo I am leaving" post was far from sincere.
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so YC is increasing their prices eh? Good for them.
BC
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I'm new to posting on this site so please forgive the length of my message. I currently own a Pramberger JP175 in Ebony Polish and Pommele finish. It is one of the newest models with Renner action. The piano is 5 months old and hasn't had any significant problems. I have now had 4 Young Chang grand pianos that were purchased through Dallas Piano Warehouse. Its been nothing but a wonderful experience to own this brand.
I would sincerely doubt that someone would have a significant amount of hammers falling off without it being reported back to Phil. Even if its the case, I would think the dealer would report this to A N D so they could alert Korea of the problem. As an owner of a manufacturing concern, I would certainly like to know of similar type issues.
I am also a friend of Phil Glenn's. Anyone who knows him is familiar with the fact that he would jump through hoops to rectify any problems that might occur with a YC piano. I know that my local dealer, who's fantastic at fixing any little problem without hesitation, would certainly tell Phil and would file a warrantee claim.
I would only add that the YC Pramberger series, both PG and JP, are wonderful pianos, and perform fantastic when properly prepped. I understand the limitations that a mass produced piano has in regards to factory prep and accept that I will need to get the dealer to do the job properly or a local tech. When done correctly the piano is a stellar performer in its class.
On another note, known only to Phil and Richard, stop using the name The Who.
Sorry for the longwinded post.
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I should listen to my instincts and say out of this one, but in case anyone ever does need help with an YC instrument, I'm always here.
Thanks for the kind words SW.
Phil B. Glenn
National Service Manager
Young Chang Pianos
AND Music Corp
POBox 99995
Lakewood, WA 98499
(800)874-2880 X110
phil_glenn@yca.tzo.com
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Nah, Mr. Glenn, you know we don't bite...much. In all seriousness, one of the few things that has never been questioned on the board, is YC's service. It's among the best, acccording to most. Now those durn Prambergers, on the other hand... 
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Yeah, durn Prambergers, all right!! After all,they don't seem to require the employ of Mr.Glenn as "national service manager" that much anyways. Job security in danger??  norbert
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For what it's worth, I have a PG213--and I couldn't be happier. For the money it's a truly fantastic piano.
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