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Garritan CFX Concert Grand released
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Just to inform you. Garritan CFX Concert Grand has been released today:
http://www.garritan.com/products/cfx-concert-grand-virtual-piano/

So, who will be the first to test this one out? ;-)

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The $300 price tag is enough to insure that I will not even consider it.

I have been through enough of them now to get the picture that none of them are perfect and it will probably just end up being a different sound, not necessarily better.


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Originally Posted by dmd
...it will probably just end up being a different sound, not necessarily better.


so true.

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jefinho #2274864 05/12/14 02:16 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but did I hear a drop out in the bass in the 'liebestraum' demo at 1:25?

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Originally Posted by jefinho
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did I hear a drop out in the bass in the 'liebestraum' demo at 1:25?


- yes, you're right. Is it the player (he could easily have corrected it if he was using any sort of DAW with midi editing), Aria or the Garittan?

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Aw man you beat me to it by 26 mins lol. Just read the email.. :p


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If this was cheaper i'd probably try it out. Would like to have a decent Yamaha sample piano.. But 299 is pretty steep

Vintage D is good enough for the time being.



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Originally Posted by jefinho
So, who will be the first to test this one out? ;-)

Not I, at that price. shocked laugh

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I would be tempted at $100 and if it receives rave reviews, I could be tempted at $150 or even a little higher. But $299 is too steep for me.


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I really want a great Yamaha software piano (I don't know if this one is or isn't yet). But at $300 I hate to take a chance on it or even support them since Garritan refused to ever deliver a promised (for years) update to the Garritan Authorized Steinway. They eventually just discontinued it instead. Yeah, I'll have to think about this for a while ...




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This doesn't look like just another sampled piano. It is beyond huge! Each of the three perspectives require 122GB of storage for full installation or 366GB for the total library. A quad-core CPU is the minimum and a SSD drive is recommended.

The Garritan Authorized Steinway was 12GB total to put this in perspective. Even the three Ivory pianos all together are just 77GB.

Yikes!

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Most people don't even carry a 400Gb+ SSD in their system..well that's another 300 extra going that route.

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I took at look at the system requirement and thought, ok, forget it then. The sample tracks do sound amazing.

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It sounds to me like this is really for a corner market - someone who wants the best and is willing and able to shell out the cash for it. It sounds good to me, but not amazing enough at this point to justify the cost. I think many of us will be waiting for that one daring soul to go out and buy this and give us the low-down on whether or not it's worth it. wink


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High price and high system requirements, that might be a problem. I'm more concerned with the qualities of the virtual piano though. Does it implement half-pedal? Repedal? How many velocity levels of samples? The technical specifications are nowhere to be found (or at least I could not find them).

Apparently different types of customers have vastly different requirements for virtual pianos.
Some customers care mostly about recording qualities - timbre of the sound, recording perspectives, ....
I personally seek different qualities - realistic implementation of various resonances and pedal, good expressibility, playability... because I use VSTs as a replacement for acoustic piano for practicing.

With this piano - they rave about the recording venue, microphones, perspectives - which brings a lot of promise for the recording crowd, but they don't say much about its usability as a practice instrument.


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That's a very big library.

I wonder how many dynamic layers it has .



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System requirements:

4 GB RAM minimum required. 8 GB RAM or greater recomended.
122 GB of free hard drive space is required for “Full” installation; 24.5 GB is required for “Compact” installation.
A dedicated hard drive with fast interface (SATA, USB 3.0, Firewire 800, Thunderbolt) is recommended. A solid-state drive (SSD) is preferred.
Internet connection for updates and online registration
USB port required for boxed version installation


Roland fp10: Korg D1:Rokit 6 G3 Studio Monitors:Sennehiser Hd598c:AKG K240 MKII:Pianoteq Bechstein & Petrof:Garritan CFX:
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1934 Danemann Upright located at MTA PHARMACY:
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Originally Posted by Mta88
System requirements:

4 GB RAM minimum required. 8 GB RAM or greater recomended.
122 GB of free hard drive space is required for “Full” installation; 24.5 GB is required for “Compact” installation.
A dedicated hard drive with fast interface (SATA, USB 3.0, Firewire 800, Thunderbolt) is recommended. A solid-state drive (SSD) is preferred.
Internet connection for updates and online registration
USB port required for boxed version installation


Yes, that's the corrected system requirements from MakeMusic. Yesterday they had 122GB per perspective which should have been for all three or the complete installation.

It's actually smaller than another piano, Production Grand, that weighs in at 430GB but is compressed in the full version of Kontakt to 210GB. That is with 8 perspectives and three separate audio resolutions. There are scaled down versions of this piano available.

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Here's a link to a user YouTube demonstration of the amazing dynamic capabilities of the Garritan CFX Concert Grand.

Garritan Abbey Road Studios CFX Concert




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It sounds nice, but not as good as I was hoping/expecting. I still think I already have one of the best sounding piano libraries (EWQLP), notwithstanding it's playability problems.

Greg.

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