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#2273678 - 05/10/14 02:15 PM Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise  
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Check it out. Let me know what you think and what can I improve
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#2273689 - 05/10/14 02:26 PM Re: Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise [Re: Danijelcro]  
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Your attack is quite heavy handed at the end of your phrases; bdc*A*, cea*B* etc. laugh Um...I prefer a more schmaltzy, rubato-y EEbEEb etc...and generally softer; try not to think of this as a piece...it was an album leaf. A piece written to and for someone of special value so that they may play it (when alone) and think of him (I think grin ). Um...just...bear that in mind smile It's not a bad attempt in my opinion; all the basics are there, rhythms generally seem fine etc. Just...it needs the polish, the reason to care; the heart and softness that may only come with experience (and a reason to play it). This piece (*sigh* to me... laugh ) is about longing and separation, about looking at a wine stain on a tablecloth and remembering from whence it came...that EEbEEb etc. is just...*so* reflective, like pulling on a thread through which your sorrows and nostalgic joys may come tumbling through...um...like I said, not bad laugh All the basic stuff's there; just work on making some emotional impact and softness...it'll come I'm sure. Well done!
Xxx


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#2273725 - 05/10/14 04:27 PM Re: Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise [Re: Danijelcro]  
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great critics tnx

#2273777 - 05/10/14 08:25 PM Re: Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise [Re: Danijelcro]  
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I agree with FSO about not thumping the last note of every phrase.
I disagree about rubato and schmaltziness... I don't think too much of that really fits Beethoven. One must remember that this is a Beethoven bagatelle and interpret it in keeping with the other Beethoven bagatelles. A little bit in certain places for specific reasons is good. More than that is in bad taste imho.

The tempo in the second section needs to be the same as the first section. If you want to take a little rit. during the transitional chords (near 1:15) that's fine, but then go a tempo as soon as you get to the beginning of the next measure. Same with the tempo on the chord section beginning near 2:20. I like the characterization of the different sections -- the second section more playful, the chord section more dark -- and that will still work at a more unified tempo.


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#2274333 - 05/11/14 10:32 PM Re: Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise [Re: FSO]  
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Originally Posted by FSO
Your attack is quite heavy handed at the end of your phrases; bdc*A*, cea*B* etc. laugh Um...I prefer a more schmaltzy, rubato-y EEbEEb etc...and generally softer; try not to think of this as a piece...it was an album leaf. A piece written to and for someone of special value so that they may play it (when alone) and think of him (I think grin ). Um...just...bear that in mind smile It's not a bad attempt in my opinion; all the basics are there, rhythms generally seem fine etc. Just...it needs the polish, the reason to care; the heart and softness that may only come with experience (and a reason to play it). This piece (*sigh* to me... laugh ) is about longing and separation, about looking at a wine stain on a tablecloth and remembering from whence it came...that EEbEEb etc. is just...*so* reflective, like pulling on a thread through which your sorrows and nostalgic joys may come tumbling through...um...like I said, not bad laugh All the basic stuff's there; just work on making some emotional impact and softness...it'll come I'm sure. Well done!
Xxx


Totally agree. The A and B in the first part were to loud. I would prefer the second part a little more... delicate.
Good job!


*Fiona*

"If music be food of love, play on!"
P.S. I am in love with Beethoven, infatuated with Liszt, and crazy about Chopin!
And when he behaves, Rachmaninoff is my darling! ;p
#2274334 - 05/11/14 10:34 PM Re: Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise [Re: FSO]  
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Originally Posted by FSO
that EEbEEb etc. is just...*so* reflective

Why Eb? wink


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Polyphonist
#2274479 - 05/12/14 12:06 AM Re: Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Originally Posted by FSO
that EEbEEb etc. is just...*so* reflective

Why Eb? wink

Because D#s don't make the score look scary enough grin


Sometimes, we all just need to be shown a little kindness <3
#2274571 - 05/12/14 05:04 AM Re: Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise [Re: Danijelcro]  
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Very good playing Danijelcro. You've obviously worked very hard on the piece and it seems to mean a lot for you. It's clear you like to piece, but then what's not to like. It's Beethoven.

you have the notes in your fingers. The transition from the A part to the B part needs to naintatian the same tempo. You do speed up a bit in the beginning of the middle section. Take you time, you have plenty of it. The only other thing I could say is that now you should concentrate on every dynamic marking and any other music instructions Beethoven has put on the page. There are plenty and you need to incorporate those into the piece. Otherwise good work and practice slowly with the music in front of you.


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#2274799 - 05/12/14 12:31 PM Re: Ludwig van Beethoven - Fur Elise [Re: Danijelcro]  
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Tnx all for your comment I will take every advise you gave me and try to improve more dynamic and tempo.
It's kind hard to work on clasiccal pieces because I never had a piano teacher to guide me what to improve so I have to realize by myself


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