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I'm still waiting for a response from Atrys on his playing ability. Joel asked and I asked, but there's still no response.
I think someone who this emphatically resists a time honored idea that everyone in the music community accepts must have considerable knowledge on the subject. It must be a concept he has mastered and can look back at having mastered the approach and consequently transcended the concept. He won't be able to. Atrys hasn't been able to refute a single thing I've said, other than to say he's refuted it, and worse, when he does refute it, he then restates it in another post as if it's a fact he's known all along. He's holding three cards in a five card game. 
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I have a saying: if you can't win an argument, just say you have and most people will believe you. Unfortunately, Atrys is doing it so badly that he's not fooling us. 
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Sorry to say that Derulux's understanding of some pretty simple physics concepts are grossly false. I wouldn't be surprised if he made it out of university with a GPA < ~2.5, likely demonstrating a failure to fully understand and apply coursework in physics.
"A good intention but fixed and resolute - bent on high and holy ends, we shall find means to them on every side and at every moment; and even obstacles and opposition will but make us 'like the fabled specter-ships,' which sail the fastest in the very teeth of the wind."
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He won't be able to. Atrys hasn't been able to refute a single thing I've said, other than to say he's refuted it, and worse, when he does refute it, he then restates it in another post as if it's a fact he's known all along. He's holding three cards in a five card game. Sorry to say that Derulux's understanding of some pretty simple physics concepts are grossly false. I wouldn't be surprised if he made it out of university with a GPA < ~2.5, likely demonstrating a failure to fully understand and apply coursework in physics. Check and Mate! 
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Sorry to say that Derulux's understanding of some pretty simple physics concepts are grossly false. I wouldn't be surprised if he made it out of university with a GPA < ~2.5, likely demonstrating a failure to fully understand and apply coursework in physics. Tsk, tsk. Ad hominem.
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Sorry to say that Derulux's understanding of some pretty simple physics concepts are grossly false. I wouldn't be surprised if he made it out of university with a GPA < ~2.5, likely demonstrating a failure to fully understand and apply coursework in physics. Tsk, tsk. Ad hominem. ![[Linked Image]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-65O4KCy1RRM/UV1cfQZdGII/AAAAAAAAAHM/QsJ0z7IKUF4/s640/5881861191_90de8b5bc9.jpg)
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@JoelW
In this thread, as well as others.
Not a single person has legitimately challenged the refutation of this school's garbage ideas and garbage teachings. Not even the professors in our music department can provide a sound argument in their favor: their way of thinking is simply not aligned enough with empirical observation and reason and science. There's just no reason to believe the ideas are true, and there's all the reason to believe that they aren't. Argument from ignorance (appeal to ignorance, argumentum ad ignorantiam) – assuming that a claim is true because it has not been or cannot be proven false, or vice versa.
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Hardly, which I concede to those who fail to recognize the difference between inference and insult. And don't act like Derulux and others are not guilty of the same crime to a much larger magnitude. Poly and JoelW, of course, leading the pack of trolls and "bullies".
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I think I've figured it out. This bot is using every logical fallacy from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
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don't act like Derulux and others are not guilty of the same crime to a much larger magnitude. We aren't. At all. I remember the other day you said that I insult people. I remember asking you for one example. Funny how you didn't reply.
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I think I found one or two on there that it hasn't used yet. But I'm sure it will, given time.
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@Morodiene
A private voice instructor giving lessons of reason to an established engineer trained in formal logic!? Haha! You almost had me there.
"A good intention but fixed and resolute - bent on high and holy ends, we shall find means to them on every side and at every moment; and even obstacles and opposition will but make us 'like the fabled specter-ships,' which sail the fastest in the very teeth of the wind."
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don't act like Derulux and others are not guilty of the same crime to a much larger magnitude. We aren't. At all. Joel...trolls thrive on comments like this. Don't deny anything, it just cements the absurd ideas farther into their head (or computer, as the case may be). 
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@Morodiene
A private voice instructor giving lessons of reason to an established engineer trained in formal logic!? Haha! You almost had me there. Yes, we all know Atrys the 20-year-old "established engineer."
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I am, indeed, established. Don't be frustrated just because the "troll" is successful.
"A good intention but fixed and resolute - bent on high and holy ends, we shall find means to them on every side and at every moment; and even obstacles and opposition will but make us 'like the fabled specter-ships,' which sail the fastest in the very teeth of the wind."
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What happens if you just confirm everything 'it' posts?
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I don't know, let's try it and see. Let's pull a compianist, as it were.
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I predict that its post count will slow down.
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I predict that its post count will slow down. After its first inflammatory post butting into a discussion, it won't really have anybody to insult, will it?
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@Morodiene
A private voice instructor giving lessons of reason to an established engineer trained in formal logic!? Haha! You almost had me there. Yes, we all know Atrys the 20-year-old "established engineer." Right, and everyone knows a voice teacher can't possibly understand logic and reasoning, even though said voice teacher pointed to several logical fallacies that a certain self-proclaimed "established engineer" committed. 
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