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Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 132 both 52" worth price #2266578
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Still trying to decide between Yamaha U3 - sounds great, and Ritmuller UH 132. Both big uprights, both sound warm, resonant. BUT, Ritmuller is about $4,000 cheaper.

Do you go with the tried and true? That is a fair bit of difference for me in terms of price. Wanting this to be my "forever" piano but just don't know what long term issues with Ritmuller might be, (if any). On the other hand, $4,000 can go to my next holiday.... Any advice? (Adult intermediate player)

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Re: Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 170 both 52" worth price [Re: Spuds] #2266594
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If you amortize $4000 over forever it comes out to $0/year. Kidding aside, $4000 is a pretty big difference. But I think there's a decent chance you'll upgrade at some point in your life, maybe 10+ years down the road.

Re: Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 170 both 52" worth price [Re: Spuds] #2266618
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Originally Posted by Spuds
Still trying to decide between Yamaha U3 - sounds great, and Ritmuller UH 170. Both big uprights, both sound warm, resonant. BUT, Ritmuller is about $4,000 cheaper.



Hi Spuds:

I think you might have the models confused: The Ritmüller 170 is a grand piano. Their biggest upright is the UH132. Is that the piano you are considering?


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Re: Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 132 both worth price [Re: master88er] #2266642
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Yes , the UH 132. Sorry. I have looked at so many pianos, getting their numbers mixed up. I decided no matter how hard I try I cannot shoe horn a small grand in my townhouse. I love the sound of the big uprights though, and although my hope is to some day get a small grand,a U3 or equivalent will be more than enough for me. Working on Grade 9 RCM at 50 years old, ha, ha.



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Re: Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 132 both worth price [Re: Spuds] #2266653
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Go with your gut. Especially if your ears agree.


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Re: Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 132 both worth price [Re: Spuds] #2266727
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My gut says Yamaha

BUT

I've never played a Ritmuller 132 and they do get good reviews

$4000 is a lot of money

As an amateur player I don't think there's much to worry about in terms of longevity of the piano - you're not going to be playing it for 6 hours a day

If you can't tell the difference or at least don't have a preference, and the cheaper of the two would fit your purpose, then buy the cheaper one.

Yamaha is certainly more of a proven brand and usually the first choice for practice rooms and conservatoires after Steinway (for the good or the bad of it), and if you had to sell the piano, well, probably the Yamaha would be easier to sell, but that's not the reason you're buying a piano.

Re: Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 132 both worth price [Re: Spuds] #2266801
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I prefer the tone on the Ritmuller by quite a far margin. I've had the UH121R for about 4 1/2 years now and am still impressed by how musical it is. When I was trying them out I actually preferred the tone of the 121 to the 132, but thought they both performed well above their price range.

Bottom line, they're both well made pianos. The Yamaha will most likely get you more if/when you sell it, but I don't think you should buy an upright expecting to get a good return on it when you sell it. If they both sound equally good, I'd go with the cheaper one. smile


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Re: Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 132 both worth price [Re: adamp88] #2267012
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Maybe you would know. The piano will be a silent model, and the Ritmuller would have to be made silent by the dealer, (Piano Magic) but the Yamaha U3 would come with factory installed silent system. Just wondering if one might be "better" than the other. The other issue is I have tried U3's but I won't be able to try the U3 that I order (special order) before it is shipped. But I did try the Ritmuller UH132 and I liked that one.

I am leaning to the Ritmuller but also wondering given our super dry winters if the dried soundboard of the U3 might hold up better. Any advice? Thanks

Re: Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 132 both worth price [Re: Spuds] #2267042
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Silent system installed at factory is generally cheaper, and better.... speaking from my limited personal experience!

My yamaha came with the silent system and it works well.
A friend had her silent system installed after a few years of ownership and has never been pleased with it.
I've read other similar stories, but can only vouch for my personal experience.


Yamaha has a very good silent system. Of course silent is never as great as going straight acoustic, but, if you live in an apartment..... it is a great compromise for times when you can't play the acoustic.


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Re: Pros/Cons Yamaha U3 vs Ritmuller UH 132 both worth price [Re: Spuds] #2267117
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Originally Posted by Spuds
I am leaning to the Ritmuller but also wondering given our super dry winters if the dried soundboard of the U3 might hold up better. Any advice? Thanks


Regardless of your choice, if your climate is tough in summer and/or winter, equip your piano with a Dampp Chaser system. You will protect your instrument and it also makes a difference in terms of tuning stability.

And as with any brand new piano, it will require more than two tunings at least the first year, even with a Dampp-Chaser. So if you like the feel and sound of the Ritmuller, I would recommend it as you will have more money left for the first year's extra tunings and a Dampp-Chaser system.


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