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#2264709 - 04/20/14 07:09 PM When a beginner is not a beginner anymore?  
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I guess it is around level 6 for me. When I joined ABF almost 5 years ago as 4evrBeginr, it seem appropriate name to use at the time. I always wanted to learn to play the piano but after half a lifetime of not being able to, it seemed I was forever stuck at being a beginner. Now that I am finally making progress, I decided that perhaps being 4evrBeginr is more confusing than it's worth, so I am now "Eight Octaves".

And yes, there is only one eight-octave piano I know of, and no, I don't have one. Wish I have the chance to play one more often.

BTW, to follow the rules of the forum, my previous 4evrBeginr username has been disabled.

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#2264710 - 04/20/14 07:14 PM Re: When a beginner is not a beginner anymore? [Re: 8 Octaves]  
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Originally Posted by Eight Octaves
I guess it is around level 6 for me. When I joined ABF almost 5 years ago as 4evrBeginr, it seem appropriate name to use at the time. I always wanted to learn to play the piano but after half a lifetime of not being able to, it seemed I was forever stuck at being a beginner. Now that I am finally making progress, I decided that perhaps being 4evrBeginr is more confusing than it's worth, so I am now "Eight Octaves". Thanks.

And yes, there is only one eight-octave piano I know of, and no, I don't have one. Wish I have the chance to play one more often.

BTW, to follow the rules of the forum, my previous 4evrBeginr username has been disabled.


You know you can just change your user name; no need to have a brand new profile? Other folks with beginner in their user name have (wisely) done that.

I've always felt that the "when am I not a beginner" is a personal one so, congratulations on making the move!


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#2264712 - 04/20/14 07:15 PM Re: When a beginner is not a beginner anymore? [Re: 8 Octaves]  
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You are not a beginner anymore when you don't need to ask whether you are a beginner anymore. grin


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#2264721 - 04/20/14 07:25 PM Re: When a beginner is not a beginner anymore? [Re: 8 Octaves]  
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Does this mean I have to add "Beginner" to my user name?


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#2264732 - 04/20/14 07:40 PM Re: When a beginner is not a beginner anymore? [Re: Andy Platt]  
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Originally Posted by Andy Platt
You know you can just change your user name; no need to have a brand new profile? Other folks with beginner in their user name have (wisely) done that.

I've always felt that the "when am I not a beginner" is a personal one so, congratulations on making the move!


Apparently, you can only change your display name, but your username never changes, so I would have to login as 4evrBeginr. I really thought I was going to be a beginner forever, and perhaps still am at some level, but for what it's worth, there is more insecurity in it than the grand philosophical thing that I made it out to be in one of my defense of being a beginner in some previous discussion.

The only drag is a new profile cannot show I joined in 2009, nor have my post count restored, but I am not a prolific poster.

#2264742 - 04/20/14 08:17 PM Re: When a beginner is not a beginner anymore? [Re: 8 Octaves]  
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Congratulations on your ascension. After five years it must feel wonderful and deserved to have made it this far. I am sure the road may not always have been easy but I guess that is what keeps us going.


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#2264754 - 04/20/14 08:57 PM Re: When a beginner is not a beginner anymore? [Re: earlofmar]  
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Originally Posted by earlofmar
Congratulations on your ascension.


Thanks. Funny you used the word ascension. Must be because today's Easter Sunday. Seriously, there was not a week that went by during my first few years that I didn't question why I am trying to learn this difficult instrument.

As the years march on, I grew accustomed the question why learn piano as the pieces got more interesting little by little. Moving onto level 6 and my teacher putting a level 9 piece in front of me as a project made me realize perhaps the beginning days have passed.

I stopped asking myself why I'm learning piano many months ago, but actually I never figured out an answer.

#2264760 - 04/20/14 09:05 PM Re: When a beginner is not a beginner anymore? [Re: 8 Octaves]  
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Maybe I should change my screen name to 4everIntermediate.

I don't necessarily feel like I'm stuck, but I'm not moving up in terms of difficulty of pieces. Instead, I'm kind of in a prolonged period of moving outwards. So for example, with pieces at my current level, it takes less time to work up a piece to playability, my ability to memorize is better, my sightreading is better.... and, I think/hope, my performance is better. But some days I'm more aware than on other days, that I'm not tackling pieces that are really at the limits of my playing ability. In my defense, I am currently trying to finish a PhD (not in a music-related field), so I tell myself that this period of progressing outward not upward is temporary. I hope that's true. Although, even if it isn't, "4everIntermediate" isn't a bad place to be. There's an awful lot of good music at this level.

Off to practice now!

P.S. congrats on your new screen name Eight Octaves! And welcome to the intermediate club wink


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#2264778 - 04/20/14 09:43 PM Re: When a beginner is not a beginner anymore? [Re: ShiroKuro]  
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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
But some days I'm more aware than on other days, that I'm not tackling pieces that are really at the limits of my playing ability. In my defense, I am currently trying to finish a PhD (not in a music-related field), so I tell myself that this period of progressing outward not upward is temporary. I hope that's true. Although, even if it isn't, "4everIntermediate" isn't a bad place to be. There's an awful lot of good music at this level.

P.S. congrats on your new screen name Eight Octaves! And welcome to the intermediate club wink


I almost change my screen name to 4evrIntrmdiate! Just kidding. It is rather exhausting to be constantly learning pieces that's at one's limits. Though it's very satisfying when the teacher says it's good to put away, another small accomplishment.

Getting a Ph.D. is a serious load. You should pat yourself on the back for playing piano at all, forget about whether you are learning at your limits. When it came time to finish my masters thesis, I took 6 months off from piano lessons. At the time I thought I would forget how to play after such a long break, but it turned out I did remember how. When absolute focus is necessary, putting piano lessons on hold temporarily was fine, no permanent damage... haha.

#2264804 - 04/21/14 12:02 AM Re: When a beginner is not a beginner anymore? [Re: 8 Octaves]  
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It`s good to read about people making progress, especially adult beginners. I am uncomfortable doing anything over grade 5. In fact, I will turn a grade 7 piece into a grade 5 (or 4) if it`s too hard. I don`t think there`s any music I haven`t done this to! Sad aren`t I? smile

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