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Old Man #2262733 04/16/14 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Man

Wrong. The purpose of the thirst mechanism is to signal that water is needed.

Exactly! You've contradicted yourself, Old Man. The logic is simple, I'm sure you can find the line and follow it if you try.

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If the goal is to never feel thirsty, then we should all run around with IV lines attached to bags of D5W, so we never have to worry about hydration.

What a ridiculous thing to say. That's clearly not true.


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Originally Posted by Atrys

Yet, still, you have no proposition, you do not attack a proposition, and you commit yourself to fallacy. Your posts are literally meaningless, so I suppose there's nothing for me to say on that point wink

The least I can do here is to make others aware that you do not offer sound advice, as it is unfounded. You can PM me if you'd like some recommendations on material for you to study so that you can begin offering actual advice to those who seek it. Until you take it upon yourself to correct your understanding, your posts are meaningless.


Wow, you really are a hopeless case.

You really have no insight, or even self-awareness. Like an infant, in fact. (Children have no real self-awareness until they are about 18 months old - another medical fact for your delectation, in case you're interested).

BTW, how many piano teachers have you got rid of now (or, more likely, they got rid of you grin), since your first post here where you blithely told us that your teacher was 'learning' from you?

Do you seriously think that anyone here has anything to learn from you? Or are you really so self-deluded, with your massive ego?


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Originally Posted by bennevis

Wow, you really are a hopeless case.

You really have no insight, or even self-awareness. Like an infant, in fact. (Children have no real self-awareness until they are about 18 months old - another medical fact for your delectation, in case you're interested).

BTW, how many piano teachers have you got rid of now (or, more likely, they got rid of you grin), since your first post here where you blithely told us that your teacher was 'learning' from you?

Do you seriously think that anyone here has anything to learn from you? Or are you really so self-deluded, with your massive ego?

The rage is back laugh

You do not make any propositions, you do not attack any propositions, and commit yourself to fallacy by attacking the person. This method of discourse must be deeply ingrained in your psyche if you can't even realize you're doing it. Try to avoid getting so emotional kiddo! You are not strong in logic, but that doesn't mean you have to get all worked up over it.

I would suggest studying up on propositional logic and discreet mathematics topics (set theory is always helpful). You have some serious logical gaps, mate.

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"A good intention but fixed and resolute - bent on high and holy ends, we shall find means to them on every side and at every moment; and even obstacles and opposition will but make us 'like the fabled specter-ships,' which sail the fastest in the very teeth of the wind."
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Originally Posted by bennevis
You're a danger to people.


Have you really read and thought about what you're saying? I don't know how hard any of you all practice, but hyponatremia is usually the result of extreme physical activity (e.g. marathons) coupled with drinking way too much water--leaving the victim with a dangerous electrolyte imbalance. I don't believe anyone suggested the OP should drink 4 liters of water per hour, which is the level of water we're talking about. (Svenno also said this above... apparently we googled the same page)

To adanepst (the OP): how much are you practicing per day? I apologize if you already said this somewhere. I knew someone once who was practicing/rehearsing/performing about 8-10 hours per day and he described a similar feeling. He was a full-time professional pianist in his 40s at the time, so it's not like he was an undergrad cramming for juries. It was a short-term situation, and after about 4 weeks he was able to cut back to a more civilized piano regimen of ~4 hours a day. He felt fine after that, but I think it was also a wake-up call for him.

Is it possible you're simply practicing too much? Maybe you need to examine how efficiently you're working. Some people just can't do 8 hour days at the piano on a consistent basis and not suffer from it. Unless you're a REALLY vigorous practicer, I'd be surprised if your fatigue is the result of dehydration or electrolyte imbalance.


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Originally Posted by Atrys
...on behalf of someone that does not even organize written language....You do not make any propositions, you do not attack any propositions, and commit yourself to fallacy by attacking the person....
They said the same of Joyce and Bernhard wink And for your burgeoning education, it's called poetry, dear; one day you may recognise the value in it and I hope you shall, for you'll be all the richer for the experience...I'll leave your own words to stir themselves. Currawong...I feel I have to say that I'm genuinely touched that you read one of my "shear rants" (they're very wooly). I know you struggle with my formatting more than most, I'd wager. Um...it really means a lot to know that, sure, you won't read everything that I plop out...but that you may still try yet means more to me than society permits me to express smile You have class, I'll grant you that much.
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Originally Posted by Atrys
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Drink when you're thirsty

This is incomplete. If one is feeling thirsty, it's already too late. The whole point is to avoid the feeling of thirst. It follows that one should be drinking water regularly to keep fluid levels up.

Old Man has got it right.

Atrys, you've Googled the wrong website (belonging to a bottled water company, probably) - for the umpteenth time.

Or else you're about twenty years behind the times, when such 'advice' (especially in lifestyle magazines) was all the rage. BTW, the corollary, that one should be snacking regularly to keep blood glucose levels up, has contributed to the current obesity and Type 2 diabetes epidermic.

More medical facts for your continuing education. grin


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And Atrys is the one who goes around accusing people of having superiority complexes. grin


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Originally Posted by bennevis

Atrys, you've Googled the wrong website (belonging to a bottled water company, probably) - for the umpteenth time.

Or else you're about twenty years behind the times, when such 'advice' (especially in lifestyle magazines) was all the rage. BTW, the corollary, that one should be snacking regularly to keep blood glucose levels, has contributed to the current obesity epidermic.

More medical facts for your continuing education. grin

More logical fallacies, yay! Is it a hobby of yours to practice these fallacies? It certainly seems so. You are really, truly, not skilled at discourse or assertions. This fact says so much about how you think (protip: it's not coherent).

You know, it's never too late to back to university and take courses on logic (even health sciences!). It's good for the brain. Actually, you can even access the material on the internet, you just won't be assessed on it so it's difficult to enforce an understanding (which you've nicely demonstrated for us with your spreading of misinformation smile ).



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Originally Posted by bennevis
You're a danger to people.


Have you really read and thought about what you're saying? I don't know how hard any of you all practice, but hyponatremia is usually the result of extreme physical activity (e.g. marathons) coupled with drinking way too much water--leaving the victim with a dangerous electrolyte imbalance.

TimV, have you actually read all my posts here?

You've missed something, which FSO has also pointed out.

BTW, I didn't Google prior to posting, unlike you and Svenno. I know of what I write.


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Originally Posted by bennevis
I know of what I write.

Haha! Clearly not. Spreading misinformation is not "knowing". You've gone far past the line of absurdity laugh

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I can feel another Atrys flame war coming on.

Your limbic system must be dysfunctional thumb

Now that I have been shown to be quite correct in my prediction, perhaps we can consider the possibility that I'm not the one with the dysfunctional limbic system.


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Originally Posted by Atrys
Originally Posted by bennevis

Atrys, you've Googled the wrong website (belonging to a bottled water company, probably) - for the umpteenth time.

Or else you're about twenty years behind the times, when such 'advice' (especially in lifestyle magazines) was all the rage. BTW, the corollary, that one should be snacking regularly to keep blood glucose levels, has contributed to the current obesity epidermic.

More medical facts for your continuing education. grin

More logical fallacies, yay! Is it a hobby of yours to practice these fallacies? It certainly seems so. You are really, truly, not skilled at discourse or assertions. This fact says so much about how you think (protip: it's not coherent).

You know, it's never too late to back to university and take courses on logic (even health sciences!). It's good for the brain. Actually, you can even access the material on the internet, you just won't be assessed on it so it's difficult to enforce an understanding (which you've nicely demonstrated for us with your spreading of misinformation smile ).


You remind me now of a movie where the hero (or fall guy, I can't remember which), believes that if he keeps repeating something often enough, it will miraculously become true.

You're beginning to sound like a parrot grin.

Try a more intelligent creature instead, like a dolphin. (They squeak wink ).


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Originally Posted by FSO
Currawong...I feel I have to say that I'm genuinely touched that you read one of my "shear rants" (they're very wooly). I know you struggle with my formatting more than most, I'd wager. Um...it really means a lot to know that, sure, you won't read everything that I plop out...but that you may still try yet means more to me than society permits me to express smile You have class, I'll grant you that much.
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Ta, love. smile I've worked out a few strategies for coping - I won't tell Atrys what they are, lest he read your posts and find out what you think of him! laugh


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@bennevis
More fallacies! You are effectively saying nothing ha

You are clearly not thinking before you write your posts. A thinking person cannot commit themselves to fallacy in the way that you do. Maybe it's just your lack of understanding of material that's causing some cognitive dissonance.

I'll remind you that you actually believe "strong fingers" are important. This speaks for itself; you are not a thinking person.


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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Now that I have been shown to be quite correct in my prediction

Poly, dear boy, this was a bennevis flame war. He is the only one acting out of frustration and rage instead of remaining civil and objective in the discourse.


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Atrys, I understand your frustration, I really do wink .

To be out-manoeuvred at every turn by several people - yes, it's hard to bear, for someone with your gigantic ego. "It's monumental!" (as David Helfgott's piano professor said of Rach 3 in the movie 'Shine' - there, I'm educating you yet again thumb).

So, for your ego's sake, I concede defeat. You can have the last word.

It's bedtime here, but you can go on with your flame war against Poly, FSO, Old Man et al. I might catch up on proceedings in the morning.......


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You've done it yet again! I could have foretold that wink

Your approach to civil argument is like that of a pre-pubescent boy: naive and not understanding. You get really emotional too, which says a lot.

Next time you try and offer advice to those who seek it, it helps to actually know what you're talking about (and how to formulate that into a proposition for advice). You failed to do so. Like I said, I'm glad that the things you assert are so off the mark that a thinking person would never take you seriously.

If OP is still with us, be aware that bennevis does not operate according to reason, but instead according to his own, deranged perception of understanding.


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Now that I have been shown to be quite correct in my prediction

Poly, dear boy, (...)

If it weren't for this kind of attitude, I think more of us would put up with you.

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Originally Posted by Atrys
If OP is still with us...

Oh, I'm sure he's still with us, but I doubt he's with you. grin


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