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#2248048 - 03/17/14 06:46 PM Yamaha P155 vs P255  
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I'm looking to get a new keyboard for practicing at home and playing on small stages.

I had my eyes set on the P155 which came out in 2006 until I found out that a newer version of the P155 recently came out. P255.

However, despite the fact that p255 is a newer and refreshed version of p155, the price has been raised somewhat significantly by $300. What new features were added and which areas of the keyboard were upgraded that would justify the raising of the price?

Is p255 worthy of being called the successor of p155, a keyboard highly rated and loved by many?

Which model is a better bang for the buck? P155 for $900 or P255 for $1,300?

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#2248074 - 03/17/14 07:57 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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I prefer the ivory-feel keys of the P-255 to the P-155. I also prefer the action, by a small margin, even tho they are spec'd as the same action. The sound from the P-255 speakers is decent, I find the line in to be truly useful, and the P-255 controller app is a nice feature.

If you check the PRICES PAID thread back in February you can see that I purchased the P-255 from zZounds at a nice discount, which could make the P-255 a no-brainer.

#2248145 - 03/17/14 10:56 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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Not really a simple question to answer. Basically the action is identical in feel but the 255 has the nicer key surface material. Whether or not this is significant depends on you. Obviously the P255 has the iPad/iPhone integration features, but if you don't worry about that, the sound of the P255 and P155 are very different. Just because the P255 is newer doesn't mean you would like it more. You have to try them side by side to judge. This is a very personal thing. You must trust your own ears.

I personally find the sound of the P255 very processed (not sure if that's the right word) compared to the P155.


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#2248159 - 03/17/14 11:57 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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I purchased the P155 about two weeks ago. I was thinking of the P255 as well, but there was something about the sound that I didn't quite like. I can't put my finger on it, but the P155 just had a more pleasing sound to me.


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#2248227 - 03/18/14 06:51 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: lang15]  
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Reminds me of P95 / P105. I have heard several people saying that p95 has a better piano (although p105 has better speakers). Looks like yamaha has not changed the sounds for the better...


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#2248488 - 03/18/14 04:57 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Digitalguy]  
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I wouldn’t say the sound is worse. CF Sampling (P255) smooths out previous artifacts of older AWM Sampling (P155). Of course, the problem is the processing used to fix the problems in AWM Sampling seemed to remove some of the timbre of a piano note to me.

I personally am not too bothered by looping artifacts and such as much and prefer a more genuine piano tone while many others find the artifact very distracting. This is something you have to experience to know which compromise you prefer.


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#2255673 - 04/01/14 10:33 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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It has been a while since P255 has been released now and people should have more knowledge about the new keyboard.

#2255717 - 04/02/14 12:43 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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I bought a P155 after comparing side-by-side to the 255. I personally like the sound and keys better on the 155.

I am curious about the sound differences. The 255 has "Pure CF" while the 155 has AWM4. Note that the 155 uses a recording of the pure CF series piano, and has 4 levels of dynamic recording. I don't know how many levels the 255 uses and I believe it does not utilize dynamic layers but I could be wrong.

What is important is what feels the best to you, then what sounds the best. The sound out of the speakers on the 155 wasn't all that bad and I really liked the stereo sustain.

I brought the 155 back because the action felt a little harsh to me and I am borderline having issues with my hands. I wasn't crazy about the piano tones on all the keys but that wasn't a major factor. Overall it felt and sounded pretty decent for the price. You basically have to spend another $1000 to step up in feel and sound, and the differences are not enormous.

If I was limited to $1000 I would look at the Yamaha P155 but would probably end up with the Kawai ES100 as I like the sound and feel a little better. But it's a toss up on what sounds and feels better to you.

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#2255765 - 04/02/14 03:42 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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I'm really intrigued by the ES100. I love my P155 but I'd really like to try out the ES100 in person. The guitar center here in Manhattan doesn't have it so I'll have to look around, it has to be somewhere in the city I have to believe.

I've been listening to the many samples of the ES100 on the below website and they sound nice, but kind of like how the P255 sounds to me, it lacks character that I feel the P155 voicing has. I'd like to see more users upload themselves playing the P255 and ES100 on YouTube, as there's very few so far.

http://www.muzykuj.com/testy/instrumenty-klawiszowe/kawai/kawai-es100-test,466.html

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#2255840 - 04/02/14 09:11 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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The P155 certainly does have 'character' and playing other instruments afterward took some getting used to. The effects might be a little over emphasized on the P155 but it seems to work well with the on-board speakers.

The Kawai won't have as much dynamic detail (stereo sustain keeps coming to mind here) but the tone is a little fatter and richer which I really like.

You may have to find an authorized Kawai dealer to find one - I found the ES100 at a piano store, not a 'music store'.

I had the P155 while I tried out the ES100. I don't know that I would give up the 155 just to get the ES100 as they are very similar, but if I were to choose between the two I'd go with the Kawai for better piano feel and a more natural piano sound.

#2256709 - 04/04/14 09:37 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: lang15]  
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Originally Posted by lang15
I'm really intrigued by the ES100. I love my P155 but I'd really like to try out the ES100 in person. The guitar center here in Manhattan doesn't have it so I'll have to look around, it has to be somewhere in the city I have to believe.


B&H (34th & 9th) lists the ES100 as in stock. Call them to see if it's on the showroom floor. Allegro pianos is a dealer too.

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Originally Posted by Turnabout
Originally Posted by lang15
I'm really intrigued by the ES100. I love my P155 but I'd really like to try out the ES100 in person. The guitar center here in Manhattan doesn't have it so I'll have to look around, it has to be somewhere in the city I have to believe.


B&H (34th & 9th) lists the ES100 as in stock. Call them to see if it's on the showroom floor. Allegro pianos is a dealer too.


Thanks for mentioning B&H- I am going to NYC for Billy Joel in 2 weeks and will stop in that day and also go to Sam Ash- do you know if Sam Ash has the P255 out?
I went to the Guitaer Center on the 21st (also for Billy Joel)- and did not see anything new other than the Roland FA 06 and 08 which I actually liked quite a bit!


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#2256966 - 04/04/14 11:08 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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Off-topic, but was Billy Joel playing the GP with a VPC1 inside?

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#2257101 - 04/05/14 10:03 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Kawai James]  
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Off-topic, but was Billy Joel playing the GP with a VPC1 inside?

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Hello James, I believe it is a PC2X as the controller which is then triggering a Kurzweil module (previous tours it was the PC2R I believe? (Not as famliar with Kurzweil anymore).

keyboard magazine had online interviews with his keyboard player David Rosenthal who went through the entire rig.

In general Billy does not change the sounds himself during the concert, it is merely a midi controller in the shell so to speak.

I believe they use the Kurzweil as it cuts through the band, but I preferred the early 80's Baldwins he used.

Also, do you know if I could find an ES100 to try out up there? I can'tfind any in South Jersey


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#2257864 - 04/06/14 09:00 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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Possum,

I don't know what sound is being used, by certainly on the UK leg of his tour, Billy was using a VPC1 inside the GP cabinet.

Here is a clip from last year - you should be able to make out the Kawai logo at the 2:00 minute mark, along with the Kawai triple pedal unit on the floor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp39NIxhamA

Regarding ES100 availability in South Jersey, my recommendation would be to use the dealer locator on the Kawai America website, or contact the folks there directly to raise your enquiry.

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#2257886 - 04/06/14 10:19 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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I decided to go with the 255. After playing it for just a couple of minutes in the store i was sold. Yes it is more expensive than the 155 but it is newer and updated, and has speakers.


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#2258167 - 04/07/14 01:39 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: cgalpha08]  
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Originally Posted by cgalpha08
... and has speakers.

And so has the P155.

#2258227 - 04/07/14 03:05 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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I've been to Allegro Pianos in Manhattan but I am unsure if they carried the ES100 in their showroom. They did have the CN34 and the CA65 and 95. You might have to give Elena (I think that's how you spell her name) a call or shoot her an e-mail. I would've went to B&H but they were closed on the weekend frown

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#2271898 - 05/06/14 02:16 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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Greeting piano world!
im new here and this is my first post:), figured id ask here instead of starting a new thread considering it is related.

I am an adult beginner and just purchased a yamaha p155(after trading in my p105). i wanted a more realistic action, i also didnt feel like spending the $1500 for the p255, i got the p155 for $1000(and it was a floor model because no one has p155's no more)so i would call it used.

Now my question is... did i make a mistake? does anyone think its worth it to bring it back and upgrade for the 255?? my budget is somewhat tight after just buying the p155. but i dont want to regret it after my 30days exchange is expired at long&mcquade(canada).

I will appreciate any input,
J

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Originally Posted by J.T.1986
Greeting piano world!
im new here and this is my first post:), figured id ask here instead of starting a new thread considering it is related.

I am an adult beginner and just purchased a yamaha p155(after trading in my p105). i wanted a more realistic action, i also didnt feel like spending the $1500 for the p255, i got the p155 for $1000(and it was a floor model because no one has p155's no more)so i would call it used.

Now my question is... did i make a mistake? does anyone think its worth it to bring it back and upgrade for the 255?? my budget is somewhat tight after just buying the p155. but i dont want to regret it after my 30days exchange is expired at long&mcquade(canada).

I will appreciate any input,
J

J, welcome to the forum. Personally, I don't think you're missing much by not having the P-255. The 155 is a good DP, and has some features (such as more front panel buttons) that are preferable to me. If you like the sound of the 155, then there's no reason to change - and if you don't like it, I wouldn't go for another Yamaha, anyway.


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Thank you grin.. and thank you for the reply.

I am satisfied with the sound. the action feels authentic also(compared to the few acoustics i have played).

you dont like yamaha? may i ask what might be a better option for the price of the 155?
i plan on keeping the digital for 1-2 years before getting an acoustic so i really dont want to regret my purchase, if there were better options of the same price point:Dlol

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Originally Posted by J.T.1986
you dont like yamaha? may i ask what might be a better option for the price of the 155?

I didn't say that I don't like Yamaha. I've very much enjoyed some Yamaha digitals. At around the $1K mark you could be looking at the Kawai ES100, and the Roland F-20. Some might also suggest various Casio models. But really, why worry about what you might have bought (as each will have pros and cons), enjoy the P-155!


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#2271959 - 05/06/14 04:12 PM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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P155 is a great DP, plus you got it cheap, ENJOY!!!
Then sell it or trade in for an acoustic!!


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Lol yes you both are right! I should just enjoy smile.
Whenever i make a purchase i always second guess myself even though i was 100% sure at the time of the purchase. crazy

Thank you both!

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I did the same thing! I originally purchased a P105 but returned it and got a P155 about 2 months ago. I do not regret it at all. It was definitely the right move to upgrade from the P105, the sound and feel is so much better.

I thought the same thing for a while, should I have got the P255 instead? After trying the P255 several times recently, I can say this, it has more piano sound choices. That's about it. I love my P155 and not a day has gone by that I haven't loved playing on it. I got the black/ebony version with the matching black stand and it also looks so beautiful. I definitely prefer the look of this one over the P255.

I also recently purchased the Galaxy vintage D software piano, but most of the time I don't even use it, because I thoroughly enjoy the grand piano 1 sound. I find it very pleasing to listen to. Get a nice pair of headphone as the internal speakers don't do it justice.




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Its good to hear from someone that went through the same as me lol.

I want the matching stand but cant seen to find it here in Canada now.

Another question regarding the p155.. I notice the keys(mainly the black keys,white keys are less noisy) are noisy on release. Does anyone else notice this?? I know there is some noise to be expected.. I am just extra paranoid because i bought a floor model and don't know how long it was out there for lol.
If there are any issues i still have 27 days to return it for a full refund/exchange.

The sound isn't awful.. Just a light thumping.. Still more quiet then my p105.

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There is some noise. Not too much. When the volume is up I can't hear it.

I just took a quick video of the key noises on my P155, hopefully this helps for comparison:
http://youtu.be/XFSdmMkbxNw

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Great video, thank you for posting that! That makes me feel better grin .

From what i can tell it is very similar to my own.

Im happy i got one of the last p155's available in the toronto area thumb i don't think i will regret not spending the extra $500 on the p255. Lol.

Thanks again!

J.T

#2278642 - 05/20/14 12:03 AM Re: Yamaha P155 vs P255 [Re: Fantality]  
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I just returned my P105 for a P255. Man the P105 really sounded crappy to me. I will let you know how it goes.. I kind of have buyer's remorse because I just realized that the P155 has the AWM Dynamic Stereo Sampling like my CLP-860 (which I really like the sound of)and the P255 has Pure CF Sound Engine, which is the same as the P105... Gulp..


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it seems right now GC has $150 off $799.
They don't seem to have new P155's but MF does.
If MF matched the coupon on the phone it would be possible to get a P155 for $749 and no tax.

Likewise, a P255 would be $1149.

Is the P255 sound a little darker than the P155?


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