2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
Who's Online Now
70 members (andredatele, Boboulus, David Boyce, anotherscott, CyberGene, Del Vento, achoo42, c++, 19 invisible), 570 guests, and 482 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
#2255304 04/01/14 11:02 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 138
F
Frank K Offline OP
Full Member
OP Offline
Full Member
F
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 138
I was at my local dealership today trying out a new grand. The salesman went through the normal lines, talking up his brand and taking some swipes at others. I wasnt surprised by any of it, except one comment.

He explained that "some makers merely season their pianos for destination." His pianos, he said, are "fully marinated for destination."

I tried to get specifics, but he said it was very technical. All he would say is the marinating helps to give his pianos a broader tonal palette, and adds a robust flavor to the sound. "Everyone knows marinating is better than merely throwing on some seasoning," he said.

So I've been left kind of confused.

Has anyone had experience with marinated pianos? How to they compare to pianos which are "merely" seasoned?


1909 Briggs 6'2" Grand
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255308 04/01/14 11:16 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 28,930
B
BDB Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 28,930
There was a movie about that, actually called The Piano. The title piano ended up totally marinated.


Semipro Tech
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255309 04/01/14 11:18 AM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Offline

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439
One would need the specific recipes to compare. Tonal massage can have very tasty results.


Marty in Minnesota

It's much easier to bash a Steinway than it is to play one.
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255334 04/01/14 12:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 542
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 542
Hmmm. I might be tempted to check the calendar, today being April 1, before researching any piano "recipes." wink


Collector of sheet music I can't play.

Chickering & Sons Quarter Grand (age TBD; currently under restoration)
Casio Privia PX-160
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255404 04/01/14 02:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 11,149
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 11,149
No matter the recipe, all pianos wind up tasting stringy.


Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Piano*Dad #2255406 04/01/14 02:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,883
A
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,883
Originally Posted by Piano*Dad
No matter the recipe, all pianos wind up tasting stringy.



You haven't tried my basted Bluthner brisket - it melts in your mouth.

Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255455 04/01/14 03:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,006
R
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
R
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,006
I personally prefer stewed pianos to either seasoned or marinated. Especially marinated.

Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255517 04/01/14 05:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
I had to settled for a seasoned one. Though the comment of my tech as he prepped my piano at home was encouraging, "for a raw piano, that's pretty darn good." So, as long as the seasoning is good, you can skip the marinate.

Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255529 04/01/14 05:56 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Offline

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439
I asked for ceviche when my new Sous-Marin & Fils was prepped.

Not all pianos need to be Well, ya know. What's done is done.


Marty in Minnesota

It's much easier to bash a Steinway than it is to play one.
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255545 04/01/14 06:05 PM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,467
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,467
Neither. I'll have a tuna sandwich.


Jean Poulin

Musician, Tuner and Technician

www.actionpiano.ca
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255591 04/01/14 06:35 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 28,930
B
BDB Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 28,930
It is a sad thing when a piano gets marinated.



Semipro Tech
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255602 04/01/14 07:08 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Offline

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439
Finally - The perfect piano for La cathédrale engloutie!


Marty in Minnesota

It's much easier to bash a Steinway than it is to play one.
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255877 04/02/14 10:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 393
J
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
J
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 393
Before making a decision, please read the Well-Marinated Piano by JS Block.


PianoPerfection
Teacher, performer, technician
Westchester County, NY
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Jim Frazee #2255881 04/02/14 10:41 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 28,930
B
BDB Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 28,930
Originally Posted by Jim Frazee
Before making a decision, please read the Well-Marinated Piano by JS Block.

Speaking of seasons, 'tis the season for his son, HNR Block.


Semipro Tech
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255882 04/02/14 10:49 AM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Offline

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439
The companion volume is also absorbing.

Die gut gewürzt Klavier


Marty in Minnesota

It's much easier to bash a Steinway than it is to play one.
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255885 04/02/14 10:58 AM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,917
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,917
If the listener is sufficiently marinated, the condition of the piano becomes less relevant.


Learner
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255886 04/02/14 11:00 AM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Offline

Platinum Supporter until October 5 2014
7000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 7,439
I highly recommend Joe's Bar & Pianer Shoppe


Marty in Minnesota

It's much easier to bash a Steinway than it is to play one.
Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
Frank K #2255887 04/02/14 11:06 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,338
A
Bronze Subscriber
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
Bronze Subscriber
1000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,338
Frank,

Seasoned or Marinated - you gotta develop a better taste in piano dealerships. wink

Re: Which is better: Seasoned or Marinated Pianos?
malkin #2255919 04/02/14 12:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
Originally Posted by malkin
If the listener is sufficiently marinated, the condition of the piano becomes less relevant.


Ah, that explains the full service bars beyond the entry and at every floor of the SF Symphony....


Moderated by  Ken Knapp, Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
(ad)
Pianoteq
Steinway Spiro Layering
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
(ad) SWEETWATER Cyber Sale
New Topics - Multiple Forums
The 100 Hardest Piano Concertos
by achoo42 - 11/30/20 06:19 PM
MIDI to USB double output
by lukasz-zsakul - 11/30/20 04:57 PM
Chopin's Nocturne op 27 no.2 vs. op.72 no.1
by RhaegarTargaryen - 11/30/20 03:51 PM
back after 34 years
by JerryLouis - 11/30/20 02:44 PM
Roland FP-30 Bluetooth Connectivity Issue
by Yaboku - 11/30/20 01:08 PM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics203,170
Posts3,029,003
Members99,437
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2020 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4