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Hello,
I have been playing the piano for >8 months now (self taught).
Now I am taking piano lessons, for 1 month, and I got a (kind of) hard piece to learn. It's Op. 55 No.1 Chopin. I am struggling with it for almost 4 days, and I only got the 1st page, without reading, I memorized it... Everytime when I try to play, I get lost because sometimes I have to look at my hands because of the chords. How can I read and play, with making leaps and chords with my left hand? I need to learn this before
march 17!! It has to be perfect. Sorry for my English.
Thank you
,JK
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Personally I'd memorize lots of it and eliminate reading from the equation.... i tend to do that anyways. That way you're looking at the score and see the c jump or whateverr and you just see ok this is that part. Memorizing small chunks works great
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I get lost after looking down for jumps too. Sometimes I plan when I need to look, and mark the score so I can spot to where I need to look back.
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Hello,
I have been playing the piano for >8 months now (self taught).
Now I am taking piano lessons, for 1 month, and I got a (kind of) hard piece to learn. It's Op. 55 No.1 Chopin. I am struggling with it for almost 4 days, I need to learn this before
march 17!!
This piece is grade 7. With only 9 months experience and just over two weeks to learn to play it perfect I would say you are expecting the impossible. What does your teacher say?
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yea, i've been playing for 9 months and wouldn't try this for years.
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2 weeks ago my teacher gave me 'Watchman's Song' Grieg, and he said, that I played it very good. Then I asked for something harder, and he offered me this beautiful piece of Chopin, but before that, he wanted to give me Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. This is really a stretch, actually, but I like that!
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depends on whether you are learning simplified versions or not, if you are then no need to worry but if not I would be very concerned.
For example Grieg's Watchman's Song is grade 4, Moonlight Sonata is grade 8, & Chopin's - Nocturne n°1 opus 55 is grade 7. No teacher should be jumping around grade levels like this even if a student want's something harder. As an example of a beginner tackling hard pieces there are people playing Moonlight Sonata after only a year of playing, but they will still be focusing on pieces from their true playing grade. Perhaps you are very gifted, I don't know, but if you are just a typical beginner don't be fooled into thinking you can skip six or seven years of experience by learning only hard pieces. The fundamentals you learn in the early years are important, that's why they are called fundamentals.
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What happens on the 17th and when will you be working with your teacher?
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depends on whether you are learning simplified versions or not, if you are then no need to worry but if not I would be very concerned.
For example Grieg's Watchman's Song is grade 4, Moonlight Sonata is grade 8, & Chopin's - Nocturne n°1 opus 55 is grade 7. No teacher should be jumping around grade levels like this even if a student want's something harder. As an example of a beginner tackling hard pieces there are people playing Moonlight Sonata after only a year of playing, but they will still be focusing on pieces from their true playing grade. Perhaps you are very gifted, I don't know, but if you are just a typical beginner don't be fooled into thinking you can skip six or seven years of experience by learning only hard pieces. The fundamentals you learn in the early years are important, that's why they are called fundamentals. I'm not a Christian but Amen to that!
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My teacher gave me the piece in feb 24, in march 10 I have another lesson from him, I want to learn this piece before march 10. Tommorow i have an appointment with my private teacher, for the first time! But, I am doing fine now with the piece, it's far from impossible.
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Jk, Its been said, "If you can hear the music in your head, you can play it on the piano."
Enjoy the process!
"Imagine it in all its primatic colorings, its counterpart in our souls - our souls that are great pianos whose strings, of honey and of steel, the divisions of the rainbow set twanging, loosing on the air great novels of adventure!" - William Carlos Williams
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