This is the first time I have read anything negative on Grotrian Steinweg piano's.
They are very high regarded over here (and more common). I do like Bernd's approach and am very anxious to here about his findings with the older Grotrian's.
the evaluation of several Grotrian pianos of different types (uprights, grands, no squares..) ;-) in one big shop gave me the absolute clear impression that there EXISTS a maker's handwriting in regard of sound. Look to the website of one of Germany's biggest piano dealers, www.klavierhalle.de
, and select to the Grotrian make alphabetically, and you'll see them all
My special interest is always related to the grands.. <shy>.. and all the grands there, also of elder make back to the 1920ies years gave me a "Hey Nice to see/hear you again Mr Grotrian" impression.
Two of the simpliest uprigths also shared one mistake..., a "pock" sound when releasing the (quite small) upper keys: a strip of felt missing, the restoring piano maker had forgotten. The shop owner excuses: "shop blindness". They knew it, it is a tiny job, but had forgotten.. This not to the blame of the Grotrian people in Brunswick!
One of the most impressive things there was the actuall newly coming-in Grotrian concert grand of 8 ft. lenght. Also with the typical Grotrian sound, and with a powerfull ans skin-shivering bass... WHOAH what a fine piano - and this being nearly 100 years old.
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OT On my last visit there - I try to be there 3-4 times in a year - also delivered me being successful in wakening up the love of the shop owner to the same classic S class Mercedes cars of which I do own two sedans - Diesel conversions off of the Uncle-Ben'z specifications.. <shy> and the shop owner owning a beautiful coupé of the heaviest 560 SEC vee eight cylinder stuff with ca. 300 HP... which he is actualy re-awakening after seven (!!!) years of hard work for his piano shop. He proudly showed me several pictures of his three-plus-one-wheel other big baby...
I am better in describing a vee eight sound than describing an eight feet piano sound: <GRONN GRONN GRONN GRONN>.
Sound bound - me & most probably the owner also.
Why the heck would anybody omit driving a veritable Mercedes eight cylinder coupé if he would not like a tiny little bit more to deal with fine pianos !?! (OK - it's my explanation. You're allowed to discard this argument.. ) *1*
Two elderly boys with their toys. Me w. one concert grand at home, he actually with four concert grands: the Grotrian 8ft., a Blüthner 280, a marvellous Bechstein D 280 which I estimate being one of the best (slightly) used european concert grands which money can buy actually - and a wonderful big quite new Steingraeber brownie.
And no, he is not my bro-in-law and no relative and I get nothing there, I never asked for a coffee or was offered one because we never have time enough to drink one, there is normally too much to tell... Nothing I do get there, besides of some two hours of friendly smiles, nice music from the professional pianist there, some nice piano talking and several fine pianos to play - I evaluated them all, these 16 Grotrian pianos, with the same Chopin nocturne 9-2.
And I also was temptated to steal eventually the whitey one grand in the entrance and the big block vee eight feet Grotrian engine concert grand - like their flame new bro 225 in Brunswick.
The whitey one must be a sister of the "Marlene" grand owned by Perri Knize - in this marvellous state with the SCT "Schubert Concert Tuning" (co mark Wienert).
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*1* look out for a YouTube video, a local SFB heroe of the boogie scene presenting in a TV show the 96 years old Pinetop Smith playing a grand - and giving same explanation why he does this in his biblic age?
blinking eyes - big grin - a very deep rough voice - telling:
I LIKE IT!!!