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#2233574 - 02/18/14 08:41 AM Pedalling!  
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I have gone back to work on "The Sound of Silence", and really need help with the pedalling. help

I have managed to read the sheet music and am putting together both hands, but there is no indication of pedalling and I end up with a huge cacophony, especially because there are quite a lot of different dynamics (or at least I want to make different dynamics to give more importance to the phrasing).

So I end up with a bit of an explosion right before trying a soft phrase.. but it's eaten up by the remains of the last phrase and I get more noise than anything.

I only really know what the sustain pedal does, or at least I think it's called sustain (in my dp it's the one on the right, or at least it keeps the sounds for longer so I guess that's the sustain pedal?).

I have tried to use it and lift it after the phrasing, but it ends too abruptly for my taste.

... and I really don't have a clue what the other 2 pedals do, I only had a sustain pedal before. confused

Help, please?


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#2233579 - 02/18/14 08:48 AM Re: Pedalling! [Re: evamar]  
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The other two pedals are designed to sit there and tarnish. wink

Having switched from DP where it was ON/OFF. I tend to half pedal and slowly release it rather than on off the pedal a lot more.

Or when it sounds mushy I let go of it completely then reapply, though of course an AP is kinda different from a DP depending if it can half pedal or not.


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#2233582 - 02/18/14 08:55 AM Re: Pedalling! [Re: evamar]  
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Eva, there are lots of videos in youtube about pedalling, many of them showing some basic exercises. Start by just playing one note-shortly after it press pedal-wait for the measure to end-lift it-play-press-lift and so on. That's one way to do it, there are a lot more depending on which effect you are after.
If the sound dies too abruptly the you need to work on that exercise, until you feel the exact point in playing-pressing-etc.
If the sound gets dirty, there are some dissonances happening: those coming from the last chord and those from the current. That's the time for a quick and subtle lift-repress, it clears it all.(I guess wink )
Try Seymour Fink's vids on youtube.

But, as my teacher often says to me: hands are the main pedal.


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#2233586 - 02/18/14 08:58 AM Re: Pedalling! [Re: evamar]  
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If you want your pedalling work to be more critical/accurate, make sure your DP reverb is OFF!!

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#2233609 - 02/18/14 09:52 AM Re: Pedalling! [Re: evamar]  
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Thanks so much for your answers, I'll try some exercises and make sure that the reverb is off. Also will give a go to the half pedalling and leave the other too untouched!

I know this will take a long time to get right... patience is not my best quality, if I actually have any good one!

Cheers!


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