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Headphones / cans people are using with their digital piano?
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Just thought I'd ask the question - what sort of headphones people are using?

I know some bundles include them, and I've read comments about them being of a certain value. Over the years, I've not had much in the way of over-ear headphones, it's nearly always been ear-bud or ear-canal style ones I've used in portable mp3 players (or before that, minidisc players).

I'm currently using some Sony ZX300s which I've been very pleased with, and were very reasonable in price.

I also bought some Philips SHL5205WT/10 Cityscape things, that didn't work well / sound OK - not sure whether that's because of the 3.5 to full size jack adapter I'm using, or whether it's because they have the 3 section jack and are more suited to mobile tech, on account of also having a microphone. They sound quite nice when I use them for watching things on one of my tablets, but plugged into my digital piano there was something off with the sound.

Interested in what others are using, headphone wise?

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Lester Burnham #2231331 02/14/14 06:13 AM
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I have the Sennheiser HD 600 and AKG Q701. If you're looking for an upgrade, maybe take a look at the Head-fi headphone buying guide, and find one in your budget: http://www.head-fi.org/a/headphone-buying-guide

You can't go too wrong with any of these choices (pick one described as neutral), and they are headphones liked by the so-called audiophile community rather than the average consumer.

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Senns HD600 here too, couldn't be happier. Head-fi is indeed a great source for this, just make sure you don't buy everything everybody says over there.

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Originally Posted by TheodorN
Sennheiser HD380 Pro.


Same here. Love'em with ES7 via mixer.

Also, like Yamaha HPH-MT220 very much. I do not own or tried with my dp, but used several times at friends home studio. He's a sound engineer and praises them for their price range. The do sound fannatic and very comfortable.

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jcdamascenojr #2231360 02/14/14 08:13 AM
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Yeah people over at Head fi are pretty crazy. Personally I think it's definitely worth it to try to budget for around $100 for a good set of headphones, but after that the differences are pretty small.

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Yeah people over at Head fi are pretty crazy. Personally I think it's definitely worth it to try to budget for around $100 for a good set of headphones, but after that the differences are pretty small.


Agree, I have a pair of Shure 240A and was surprised to see how other higher end models are just a little bit better while costing much more. I like a lot Shure 1540, very confortable, very well built (contrary say to shure 940) and excellent sound. But a crazy price tag. For a sound that is definitely not several times better than my shure 240A (under 100$)


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Lester Burnham #2231373 02/14/14 08:34 AM
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I use Sony MDR7506 Professional Large Diaphragm Headphone and they are great. In general I seldom use headphones. But when I do I enjoy how these sound; best part, is that they are not too expensive.


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Originally Posted by Lester Burnham

I also bought some Philips SHL5205WT/10 Cityscape things, that didn't work well / sound OK - not sure whether that's because of the 3.5 to full size jack adapter I'm using, or whether it's because they have the 3 section jack and are more suited to mobile tech, on account of also having a microphone. They sound quite nice when I use them for watching things on one of my tablets, but plugged into my digital piano there was something off with the sound.

Interested in what others are using, headphone wise?

I think the adapter you're using might be at fault - I had the same problem with an adapter I bought online. When I bought another (rather more expensive) one from a reputable electronics store, the sound from the same headphones was transformed.

Good headphones will work equally well with MP3 players, DPs or hi-fi. With the right adapters........


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I also bought some Philips SHL5205WT/10 Cityscape things, that didn't work well / sound OK - not sure whether that's because of the 3.5 to full size jack adapter I'm using, or whether it's because they have the 3 section jack and are more suited to mobile tech, on account of also having a microphone. They sound quite nice when I use them for watching things on one of my tablets, but plugged into my digital piano there was something off with the sound.

Interested in what others are using, headphone wise?

I think the adapter you're using might be at fault - I had the same problem with an adapter I bought online. When I bought another (rather more expensive) one from a reputable electronics store, the sound from the same headphones was transformed.

Good headphones will work equally well with MP3 players, DPs or hi-fi. With the right adapters........

I think it's something specific to that pair of Philips headphones.

But funny you should mention it - the first adapter I had (3.5mm->6.3mm) I think was a bit iffy. I'd started using it with the Sony headphones I'd bought, and the sound wasn't very good - sounded similar to when the plug / cable connection has started to deteriorate, and you can sometimes only hear sound out of one side.

Thinking the headphones I'd bought weren't very good, was why I bought the Philips headphones (they got some decent reviews) but I also bought a couple of new adapters at the same time.

When I plugged my Sony headphones into one of my new adapters, no more problematic sound. But from what I understand of these Philips ones, they need some additional adapter when you're using a 3.5->6.3mm adapter (I've read comments elsewhere about the same issue).

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Headphones don't really do it for me, the sound is always not so good, the comfort is less than optimal, but I guess if you enjoy loosing your hair it's fine to wear them..

So I use in-ear cans, they isolate much better and you can hence work longer at lower volumes, in a continuous concentration. I found a cheap model that sound far better than any of the headphones I had before : the Philips SHE3590 series. They have rich low ends, much more definite and precise high ends than headphones, and are pretty flat in the middle, so it's very possible to play, work, edit, and even start the mixing with these, without doing it wrong compared to studio monitors.

I have several pairs, they are all very sturdy, the audio drivers don't sound distorted over time, if you walk on the buds they don't break, the cable is long and strong enough, they weight nothing and are simply not a comfort issue at all, but Philips will soon end its consumer electronics activity so they will disappear. Below 15$ a pair, after reading the good press and the the infinite comments trail about their quality on the nerd-fi forums, you could even try them and find you previously had erroneous ideas about what a good headset is...

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Audio-Technica ATH-M40fs, which you can get for $49 most places. I'm very happy with them. The M50s are supposed to be better, but they're also more than twice as expensive, and I haven't felt the need to upgrade.

I would avoid headphones that are "branded" with the names of music stars, because while they might be (and often are) very high quality cans, according to sites such as Consumer Reports you're not getting full value for the price, paying a premium for the branding. Good luck.


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In A Silent Way #2231399 02/14/14 09:23 AM
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Headphones don't really do it for me, the sound is always not so good, the comfort is less than optimal, but I guess if you enjoy loosing your hair it's fine to wear them..

So I use in-ear cans, they isolate much better and you can hence work longer at lower volumes, in a continuous concentration. I found a cheap model that sound far better than any of the headphones I had before : the Philips SHE3590 series. They have rich low ends, much more definite and precise high ends than headphones, and are pretty flat in the middle, so it's very possible to play, work, edit, and even start the mixing with these, without doing it wrong compared to studio monitors.

I have several pairs, they are all very sturdy, the audio drivers don't sound distorted over time, if you walk on the buds they don't break, the cable is long and strong enough, they weight nothing and are simply not a comfort issue at all, but Philips will soon end its consumer electronics activity so they will disappear. Below 15$ a pair, after reading the good press and the the infinite comments trail about their quality on the nerd-fi forums, you could even try them and find you previously had erroneous ideas about what a good headset is...

Funny you should mention them, I have other similar ear bud or ear canal type headphones, I have some Philips SHS3200 which were pretty cheap, and a few pairs of SHQ1000 which I've found great in the gym or out walking. I've also found JVC flats very decent, budget on-ear headphones.

Truth be told, I haven't found comfort an issue with on-ear headphones (I've only really started using them with my digital piano) - different if I'm lying in bed watching something on my tablet - but whilst playing / practising on my digital piano I've been fine with them. They seem a nice balance of blocking out most of the sound from my kids if they're watching TV, whilst not being totally oblivious if they wanted to get my attention.

As to my hair - well it's only ever at a small number of millimetres in length, so not really a problem with wearing headphones.

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Sennheiser HD595s are lovely - now superseded by a similar model# - you lose track with headphone manufacturers.

A lot of the time when I'm practising I use an old pair of Sennheiser PX100. Featherweight and very comfortable but maybe not durable enough. Remarkably, in as good an A/B test as is possible to conduct they sound almost indistinguishable from the 595s! Good firm bass end.

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I'm using the HiFiMan HE-400 headphones. Not being an authority on headphones,
these were purchased on friends advice. They are more then satisfactory and I really
think (to my ears), very good depth and separation of sound.

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I learned my lesson in the recent past regarding headphones and their connecting cables.

All the headphones I presently own can have all their cables easily replaced if they are ever damaged ... and they will easily pop out if over extended.

I use Bose noise reduction headphones at the gym. Just yesterday I hopped off a machine to help the manager reposition a machine and the cable popped out of the Bose headset because I had over extended the distance allowed. Had it been a set of headphones where the cable was permanently mounted I would have destroyed yet another set of headphones.

Consider buying headphones where the cables can be easily replaced when damaged. wink


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+1 for the PX-100 - I use them when mobile a lot - they are surprisingly good. (I have the -II variant though, which some reviewers say are not as good as the originals)

I wouldn't recommend either of my full sized headphones that I use at home, so I won't - one is just too hard to drive, and the other is way outdated.

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