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Re: NEW Yamaha p-255? [Re: carkar] #2225286
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I know that this doesn't mean any thing for some people here but it's sort a important to me. I just got my new P255 and am very glad to report that it's "Made in Japan".

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Originally Posted by Hookxs
Unprecedented polyphony bothers me less than "this action feels exactly like the action of an acoustic grand" or "this string-resonance feature exactly replicates all the rich resonances of an acoustic grand". And then higher priced model feels exactlier like an acoustic grand or what?


Don't be disappointed when I tell you that not even the top tier flagship models like the Yamaha CLP-480 or Roland V-Piano (both of which I own) have features that rival acoustic pianos - they do not.

The V-Piano comes closer to the string and damper resonances of an acoustic piano and has good decay although all of the other digitals I have played do not compare and fall short.

Even the AvantGrand N3 has its shortcomings with the quality of the piano sounds and resonance although the action has been taken from a small acoustic Yamaha grand.

All digital pianos require compromise of some sort as they simply cannot compare to the real thing.

Re: NEW Yamaha p-255? [Re: pv88] #2225360
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Originally Posted by pv88
All digital pianos require compromise of some sort as they simply cannot compare to the real thing.


Richard, have you considered purchasing an acoustic piano?

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Re: NEW Yamaha p-255? [Re: Kawai James] #2225560
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by pv88
All digital pianos require compromise of some sort as they simply cannot compare to the real thing.


Richard, have you considered purchasing an acoustic piano?

James
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I would have to say the pv88 is absolutely correct. However, DP do not have to be exactly like the real thing. In fact, if a DP is exactly like the real thing, meaning have fixed volumes with no headphone options, a single piano voice, require tuning by expensive techs, I would think nobody would buy a DP. The point of a DP is that it is very different.


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Re: NEW Yamaha p-255? [Re: Kawai James] #2225567
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Richard, have you considered purchasing an acoustic piano?

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James,

It is something I have thought about from time to time however due to lack of space in my current place I doubt I would commit to getting one - as I would certainly opt for a nice sized grand as they are not inexpensive and take up lots of room and require plenty of of maintenance and tunings.

I always prefer to keep at least one digital (i.e., the CLP-480) as it has the acoustic guitar presets along with orchestral strings, electric pianos, and other sounds which I make use of and/or layer to the primary piano preset.

As for now an AP is not a likely consideration.

Extra note:

I would also be very reluctant to sell or trade in my CLP-990M which was a difficult item to locate and required long distance shipping to obtain. Have become rather fond of this piano with its excellent action (as it has the heaviest feel compared to my other digitals) and the main piano sound is quite realistic with decent reverb effects and powerful speaker projection.

Re: NEW Yamaha p-255? [Re: blackspaven] #2225712
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Originally Posted by blackspaven
He doesn't know what the word 'unprecedented' means though.

Heck, when it comes to DPs I'm not sure what "polyphony" means.

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Originally Posted by dewster

Heck, when it comes to DPs I'm not sure what "polyphony" means.


In an essay for school, c1975, I once wrote, 'Composers in the early Romantic era were particularly drawn to piano composition because the piano is a polyphonic instrument, which gave the performer complete control over the work.'

Mrs Pilling put a red line right through it saying WRONG USE OF THE WORD POLYPHONIC.

....and we're still kind of confused.


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Re: NEW Yamaha p-255? [Re: carkar] #2226870
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I'll be interested to check this out, as I'm still on the fence re the CP stage pianos. Some of these features would be quite cool for me, for scratchpad songwriting, and nice to have built-in speakers and gee, string resonance at that!

Made in Japan, maybe, but not released over here yet, finally found some info on Yamaha's site - to be released in Japan in March. Curious to see the pricing.

Re: NEW Yamaha p-255? [Re: toddy] #2226883
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Originally Posted by toddy

Mrs Pilling put a red line right through it saying WRONG USE OF THE WORD POLYPHONIC.

....and we're still kind of confused.


LOL laugh

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Re: NEW Yamaha p-255? [Re: carkar] #2230469
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Been using the P-250 for years at home fro practice, but way too heavy to take to a gig, though I would love too...

What's the weight of the P-255?


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Re: NEW Yamaha p-255? [Re: keychain] #2230472
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Originally Posted by keychain
Been using the P-250 for years at home fro practice, but way too heavy to take to a gig, though I would love too...

What's the weight of the P-255?

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Originally Posted by keychain
Been using the P-250 for years at home fro practice, but way too heavy to take to a gig, though I would love too...

What's the weight of the P-255?


Keychain, Shout out for a fellow P-250 user! Mine is like 12+ years old and still going strong, they built those things like tanks didn't they?

Anyway, The New P-255 is considerably lighter at 38 lbs.


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