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Searching for a 7'-9' "piano to die for" in Chicago
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For the past several months I've been questing for a seven- to nine-foot "piano to die for" (new or used) in the greater Chicago area. I've spent the past 40 years playing mostly NY S&S Bs and Ds, which have thus figured prominently in my current search. That said, the comments on this forum convinced me to cast my net a little wider and I've looked at some remarkable non-Astorian pianos. Too many to catalog here, and no slight to the other makes I've seen, but I have to comment that I recently played for the first time both a Steingraeber C-212 and a Bösendorfer 225. What remarkable pianos. Thanks for the tips and keep 'em coming.

Larry.

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If they haven't sold it yet, Pianoforte has an F212 that is stunning as well. If I recall correctly, it's voiced warmer than the typical Fazioli sound, and benefits greatly. They've also got an F278 and a Schimmel concert grand for quite a steal, comparatively speaking.

Pianoforte in general is a must visit if you're in the market for a large grand. They take excellent care of their pianos, too.

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Yes, I played the F212; the F278 was temporarily unavailable (a recital going on upstairs). The salesman also told me that they had just received a Shigeru (SK-7 I believe), but it wasn't even uncrated yet, so I have to get back down to PianoForte. Perhaps this Saturday.

The Schimmel is gone, I suspect. I specifically asked to look at a Schimmel (I'd especially like to try a K219 and K230), but he told me they had none in stock.

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It's impossible to give advice on hot 7' grands available in Chicago right now.

Unless one is there and tries each one of them...

Recommending some of the top makes and aim at those would make sense. The easy way out....ha

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I have a deep love the the Bösie 225. 3hearts

A few more suggestions...

Grotrian 225
Estonia L225
Seiler SE-242
Blüthner model 2
Sauter 220 Omega
Steinway C (if you can find one)
Mason & Hamlin BB


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Here's a 1961 NY D for $59K

http://livingpianos.com/pianos/steinway-concert-grand-piano-model-d-370730/

It's out here in LA, but may be worth shipping. The same company just sold a 1935 Baldwin 9 Ft. for under $20K.

Used concert grands may be few and far between, but bear in mind that buyers like you are fewer and farther between. So, give it time, and let all the local dealers know what you're looking for. They'll call you the instant something good comes in.


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Have you given a call to Farley's Pianos up in Madison, WI?

Tim does truly fine rebuilding and you might ask what he has on the floor.


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Originally Posted by JohnSprung
So, give it time, and let all the local dealers know what you're looking for. They'll call you the instant something good comes in.

That is good advice.


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iLaw:

If you look as far afield as Madison, WI, I would most certainly consult Mr. Reeder in Lansing, MI. He almost always has a concert grand and other large grands, and they are all well prepped.

There is an easy train connection.

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Originally Posted by iLaw
For the past several months I've been questing for a seven- to nine-foot "piano to die for" (new or used) in the greater Chicago area. I've spent the past 40 years playing mostly NY S&S Bs and Ds, which have thus figured prominently in my current search. That said, the comments on this forum convinced me to cast my net a little wider and I've looked at some remarkable non-Astorian pianos. Too many to catalog here, and no slight to the other makes I've seen, but I have to comment that I recently played for the first time both a Steingraeber C-212 and a Bösendorfer 225. What remarkable pianos. Thanks for the tips and keep 'em coming.

Larry.


Try the Steingraeber D-232 if you can. Both it and the 212 are amazing instruments, but they are different.


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Originally Posted by Karl Watson
iLaw:

If you look as far afield as Madison, WI, I would most certainly consult Mr. Reeder in Lansing, MI. He almost always has a concert grand and other large grands, and they are all well prepped.

There is an easy train connection.

Karl Watson
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I was going to suggest Reeder's, also.


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Originally Posted by PianoWorksATL

A few more suggestions...

Grotrian 225
Estonia L225
Seiler SE-242
Blüthner model 2
Sauter 220 Omega
Steinway C (if you can find one)
Mason & Hamlin BB



Lots of good ideas there.

PianoForte showed me the Grotrian 208 (Charis) but unfortunately they did not have a 225, which is definitely on my list.

The Mason & Hamlin dealer had lots of smaller M&Hs, new and used, but no BB. He said the holiday season cleaned him out of larger pianos (I guess the economy is looking up on Chicago's north side!).

Seiler, Blüthner, Sauter so far are nowhere to be found.

Larry.

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Big fan of the Grotrian 225 so glad that is on your list. The C.Bechstein 234 I recommend should be as well. Good luck.

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I suggest you try them all because a piano you would die for is not necessarily one I or anyone else would die for. I do know that Allegro Pianos in CT has a Bosie Imperial, a Blutnner concert grand and a used NY S&S concert grand with new action parts in stock. All three are good representatives of these models. Call Ori if you are wiling to travel.

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PS. Rich of Cunningham's in Phily most probably has a BB or two.

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Boy Larry, I'm so jealous! wink Those piano's are drop dead gorgeous, esp, the Steingraeber D-232! I can only imagine how it sounds! Good Luck in your quest wink
I live also in Chicago's N. side and surprising to hear the market got sold out of larger pianos, really surprising. I don't see much impr. of the economy with the number of closed businesses.

I just started playing, and sure wish I had the funds to buy a grand piano. I've played several and they, imo, are much more emotionally connecting to the music. Something about an acoustic piano vs a dp. No comparison.

Anyway, I just wanted to wish you luck Larry.
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Originally Posted by LJC

PS. Rich of Cunningham's in Phily most probably has a BB or two.


I was told here in Chicago that the Milwaukee M&H dealer had a BB as well, but the only Milwaukee dealer I can find on the internet appears to be Hartland, which does not list a BB in stock on its web page.

Which reminds me, dealers. I'm occasionally encountering some fairly 20th Century web presence out there!

Larry.

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Sometimes I've found it helpful to call the phone numbers for the US distributors (we list 'em in the Piano Buyer) and ask who has what. When I've written or coordinated reviews in the past, they often know what the dealer inventories are related to their brands - at least the "new" inventory.

I'm pretty sure Hartland is the M&H dealer for the Milwaukee area. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


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Hi Larry,

I don't know anything about this dealer, but it might be worth contacting them.

http://www.americanmusicworld.com/product/Mason%20and%20Hamlin%207%20Ebony%20Satin


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Originally Posted by Chrisl

... esp, the Steingraeber D-232! I can only imagine how it sounds!


Chris,

No need to imagine. If you're on Chicago's north side you're within walking distance of one. Dust off your playing before you go, though, because they have it up on a stage so you may get an audience.

Thanks for the good wishes, and hang on to that digital. You'll want it for late-night practicing or when everybody else in the house is watching the Super Bowl.

Larry.

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