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For those using Pianoteq, I'm curious about which specific piano preset (included with Pianoteq or an add-on) is your favorite or most used (tweaked or un-tweaked).

It would be great if, when you reply, you'd also mention what kind of music you generally play with that "piano" - ie: classical; pop; jazz; blues, etc.

Thanks!


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Bluethner. I play a mix of classically inspired rock plus jazz/rock/blues fusion, and will probably get back into classical pieces with it. It is definitely Modartt's best to-date - wonderfully expressive.

The D4 is also quite good. I sometimes mix that with my DP's sampled sounds.


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Bluthner (or Bluethner) Model One is my favorite.

I am still tweaking to get the sound I like. The real issue is finding a good velocity curve.


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Bluthner is the best. D4 is ok. The upright is very upright sounding. If you like that kind of thing, it's pretty good.

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Bluthner Model One add-on. Personally, I think it's better than the stock D4 emulation of Pianoteq. I use it mostly for classical pieces (and also when creating background music for wedding videos with EWQL Symphonic Orchestra)...


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I use D4 with Daily practice preset and Small hall reverb - Pianoteq Stage. I tried same preset in PT Normal (Demo) and it sounded differently. I guess it must be because of other parameters which are not included in Stage version.


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I got the basic version which has Steinway and Kawai samples. Steinway Classical recording (which has reverb) is best for me, all styles but the Kawai ambience is fine . I tweak it for dynamics volume and velocity curve, but hardly ever play it in anger though it`s generally connected up for that purpose. I use it for recording. It`s sometimes preferable to the DP.


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Rhodes 'punchy chorus' is nice - compressed and quite raunchy. For jazz and R & B type songs/ pop.


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Originally Posted by toddy
Rhodes 'punchy chorus' is nice - compressed and quite raunchy. For jazz and R & B type songs/ pop.



Where do you find Rhodes 'punchy chorus' in Pianoteq ?



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Originally Posted by dmd
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Rhodes 'punchy chorus' is nice - compressed and quite raunchy. For jazz and R & B type songs/ pop.



Where do you find Rhodes 'punchy chorus' in Pianoteq ?



It's in the Electric Pianos section. There is a long list of Fender Rhodes variants. I think this is the best - in fact Pianoteq's EPs in general are great - better than Roland HP 302, certainly and even better than the Native Instrument sets (A-200 and Mark 1).

Pianoteq's Wurlitzers are really nicely animated: comp(ressed), flange and over-driven in particular .


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Originally Posted by peterws
I got the basic version which has Steinway and Kawai samples.


No samples in Pianoteq :-)
Just pure math. Reminds me of old days of assembler programming.

There is one thing I would like to suggest everyone who wants to try Pianoteq: please get some decent OPEN-BACK headphones. It really makes big difference in sound quality.


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Originally Posted by toddy
It's in the Electric Pianos section.


I do not seem to have an Electric Pianos section. I removed a bunch of demo presets. Maybe that was one of them.


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You could download it again, I suppose. I imagine you could simply program these instruments in as Pianoteq is an modelling synthesiser, and does not use samples.

.....but even if it were possible it would take ages.


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Just about everything that Don Smith has contributed.

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Originally Posted by toddy
You could download it again, I suppose.


I could if I chose to pay for it.

I didn't and probably won't.


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Originally Posted by toddy
It's in the Electric Pianos section.


I do not seem to have an Electric Pianos section. I removed a bunch of demo presets. Maybe that was one of them.


How do remove a demo preset? (I have Pianoteq Stage, if it matters...)



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Can't you download the demo separately? I only have the demo but when I can pay for the full version and the EP add-ons, I will. Until that time, I can play in keys that avoid the disabled flats - or double it up with a fully functioning EP to fill in the gaps. The EPs are, afaic, the most impressive and usable instruments in PT. I like the APs but they leem to lack substance somehow, and sometimes reveal a synthetic character.


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Originally Posted by toddy
The EPs are, afaic, the most impressive and usable instruments in PT. I like the APs but they leem to lack substance somehow, and sometimes reveal a synthetic character.

Yes, Pianoteq still has a way to go before the difference between it and a real piano is indistinguishable, but I have to say that the improvement from V3 to V4.5 is huge. I was unable to tolerate version 3 APs for more than a few minutes. Now, the Bluthner, to me, is a great piano substitute.

I've heard it said that for Pianoteq to rival a real piano, the computer resources required would go way beyond what is practicable today. So it's a compromise (isn't it always?). The fact that I can have something that responds so well to every nuance is a huge boon to me. I don't really like the kerfuffle involved using an outboard computer every time I want to play, but I have been so disappointed in the snail's pace of progress with the major manufacturers' DPs that I now think it's worth it.

Edit: I should add that, at its current price, I think the Stage version of Pianoteq is a bargain, even when you add in the Bluthner upgrade. I don't need or want to tweak the sound beyond the very basics, and so am content with what Stage offers.

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I've heard it said that for Pianoteq to rival a real piano, the computer resources required would go way beyond what is practicable today. So it's a compromise (isn't it always?). The fact that I can have something that responds so well to every nuance is a huge boon to me. I don't really like the kerfuffle involved using an outboard computer every time I want to play, but I have been so disappointed in the snail's pace of progress with the major manufacturers' DPs that I now think it's worth it.

Exactly - Pianoteq is an admirable project indeed, especially as it uses advanced synthesis/ modelling to create tones. It's come a long way in a relatively short time and is affordable and very well designed for the user.


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Originally Posted by newbert
How do remove a demo preset? (I have Pianoteq Stage, if it matters...)




Well, if I remember correctly ...

You click on that little icon that looks like a pencil and a large window showing all the preset options will open.

Then, you scroll down to the one you wish to delete and right click on it.

You may get an option to delete it.

That's it to the best of my knowledge.

I have the fullblown version. It might be different in the Stage version.


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