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#2219319 - 01/23/14 08:42 AM figertips or finger pads?  
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Basic question, do most of you play with your fingertips or more the pads?
Are your hands supposed have like a "claw" shaped hands? when you press down on the keys are your fingers from the knuckles straight?
I ask this as I noticed my hands are pretty flat whilst playing and it just doesn't look right to me.

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#2219322 - 01/23/14 08:44 AM Re: figertips or finger pads? [Re: kent2012]  
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#2219330 - 01/23/14 08:53 AM Re: figertips or finger pads? [Re: kent2012]  
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Hi Kent,

Even more important than just playig with "curved" or "straight" fingers is the way how you move your fingers.

It has been thoroughlly researched that the most efficient way of playing is the way, were fingers move sensitively. It means, that all three parts of every finger are in motion and are involved in the playing process.

So the finger pushes the key down while going from curved position into more straight position.

So can each finger be really independent. And the soft pads can make a very good contact with the instrument. You should not play with nails smile

Also very important is the knuckle support.

Basically, every time you want to see the most natural hand position, stand up and let your hands fall 100% loose.

Then you will see - the fingers are curved, knuckles can be seen the wrist is in the normal position. And that is the position where teachers always try to push their students.

So just stand up with loose hands and you will see it.

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#2219342 - 01/23/14 09:24 AM Re: figertips or finger pads? [Re: kent2012]  
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On a side note to this post, I have only been playing a year and recently purchased a top-of-the-line digital piano. I play with my fingertips but my piano keys are getting light scratches on them. The dealer replaced the first one which had 16 keys with scratches, some deep enough to feel. I played the 2nd one for 8 days and then noticed the first scratch. Now I have a few keys with very fine scratches. My fingernails are so short that I can't even scratch my head smile The scratches show up when looking at certain angles with the refelction of my LED reading light. Does anyone else have any scratches on their keys? My keys are actual wood-based with a satin-type polymer finish.

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#2219343 - 01/23/14 09:27 AM Re: figertips or finger pads? [Re: kent2012]  
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thank you for the replies, will have a look a both links smile

#2219499 - 01/23/14 02:13 PM Re: figertips or finger pads? [Re: kent2012]  
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More to the finger tips if I want to have a more percussive tone. More to the finger pads if I want a more singing tone.


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#2219529 - 01/23/14 03:22 PM Re: figertips or finger pads? [Re: kent2012]  
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Originally Posted by kent2012
Basic question, do most of you play with your fingertips or more the pads?
Are your hands supposed have like a "claw" shaped hands? when you press down on the keys are your fingers from the knuckles straight?

"Claw" evokes the idea of tension, and unfortunately some people do adopt this (and end up having problems). The real answer is that you don't want to have any kind of "shape", because none of your joints should be locked, and everything moves - especially your fingers. If you play a wide interval such as an octave or more, your fingers will be straighter, while if the notes are close together, your fingers will be rounder. If you bring your fingertips together, your hand naturally becomes round.

Also be aware that you play with your whole body, and your arm is part of the motion.

These are things I've been learning, because originally I had lots of rigid and fixed things.

Watch Kissin, and see how the shape of his fingers and his hand are constantly changing. In the slow part, as soon as he has lowered the keys, you see the "give" in his finger joints and wrist etc. as he releases and relaxes. Nothing keeps any kind of rigid shape. -- Also notice how his arm and body work together with this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgYhcM5TB_c


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