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Originally Posted by surgtech
$1,300 at Kraft music.


that's a pretty hefty increase. it needs to be a big improvement to move its price up 30%


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$1,300 at Kraft music.


that's a pretty hefty increase. it needs to be a big improvement to move its price up 30%


Agreed. I told myself that I was gonna jump at the moment the P-255 was available in the states, but only if the price was the same as the P-155. Let's see what Casio has in store next week...


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Originally Posted by carkar
but only if the price was the same as the P-155.


Gotta wait until it goes on sale. Black friday or something.

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So I was pleasantly surprised to learn that the P155 is still made in Japan (considering the price). Just wondering now if Yamaha decided to move the manufacturing of the P255 to China or Indonesia, just like other low to medium range instruments.

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Yes, would be cool if someone can check where is made. For the price, I would expect is made in Japan, like his predecessor P-155.


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Not trolling at all.

pv88 recently bought Yamaha's last top-model: a used, 1998-vintage CLP990. Nothing Yamaha has produced since can match it. Every piano, even their high-end goods, is a downgrade from that peak.

Do you expect Yamaha to make improvements in its budget line P-series when they've not even done so in their high-end products?


Agreed, I too have owned a CLP990 since they made their debut and there is still nothing better by Yamaha. The latest Kawai's have a similar feel and are moving in the right direction with the wooden keybeds. I think my next digital might be one of the newer Kawai's being introduced this year.


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Originally Posted by Daniel Richter
Yes, would be cool if someone can check where is made. For the price, I would expect is made in Japan, like his predecessor P-155.


I'm in Japan and there's no info about it here (yet), but then again people seemed to know about the CPs in the west before they were announced here as well. Maybe official announcement at NAMM?

I don't know if that answers the question on where they're made, though it would seem perhaps not in Japan...

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Kraft Music just posted a P255 demo they made in-house:




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Hi James. Sure, I like Yamaha very much - great stuff, but I LOVE Kawai. Nothing better IMO. We can't wait to see your new tricks! Catch you in a few days.

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At this point, the P255 ticks all boxes of my requirements for a portable slab DP and I'm ready to pull the trigger to order. However, I will wait until NAMM is over. It would be interesting to see if Kawai or Roland announces any surprise interesting products in a few days.

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Well, the Kawai ES7 and Roland FP-80 are already available, and offer more than ample competition for the Yamaha P255. wink

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You're right but those two are significantly more expensive than the P255.

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Ah, that's true.

The Yamaha P155 was always cheaper in the US than Europe, while the equivalent Kawai and Roland boards are a little more expensive.

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Originally Posted by Delphian2001
At this point, the P255 ticks all boxes of my requirements for a portable slab DP and I'm ready to pull the trigger to order. However, I will wait until NAMM is over. It would be interesting to see if Kawai or Roland announces any surprise interesting products in a few days.


I too am in the same boat. I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on the P-255 because of the price to feature ratio, however Kawai has a prowess in that department as well. Would really love to see an MP7 (with updated action and sound engine) come into fruition for the same or close to the same street price of the MP6 in a couple of days. I understand James's position so it looks like the wait continues until Thursday.


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Now, if Kawai announces an MP7 that is priced similar to MP6 then I may change my mind smile

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I think waiting a week or so is a good idea for anyone looking at digital pianos. There will be new models and they may or may not change the DP landscape.

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Still gotta wait and see what Casio has in store.


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Still gotta wait and see what Casio has in store.


Given Mike's relative absence in recent months, I think it's safe to assume Casio are working on some very cool new models.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Ah, that's true.

The Yamaha P155 was always cheaper in the US than Europe, while the equivalent Kawai and Roland boards are a little more expensive.

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Which Kawai board is equivalent to the P155?


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