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#2212717 - 01/11/14 10:34 AM Speakers for slab style digital piano  
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So, still trying to figure out all of this stuff and what I want to wind up with.

If I were to buy a slab style DP such as a Kawai MP6 (or new model if released at NAMM), what works best for speakers? I have had recommendations for something like KRK Rokit speakers, but also wondering about a keyboard amplifier?

I play guitar and have a Trace Elliot 100W acoustic guitar amp, but don't know enough about the differences (if any) between an acoustic guitar amp and a keyboard amp. My Trace Elliot amp has a 10 or 12" woofer on the bottom and two 4" speakers above that in the amp cabinet.

Thanks again in advance for your advice and this great forum of knowledge!!

Jim

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#2212749 - 01/11/14 11:36 AM Re: Speakers for slab style digital piano [Re: 2726]  
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If the piano samples are in stereo, you'd want a stereo set up, right?

Whatever you decide on be sure to know the store's return policy. You always want to live with a speaker set up for a few days to know if you really like it.

You can always use professional headphones until you make your choice.



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#2212787 - 01/11/14 12:46 PM Re: Speakers for slab style digital piano [Re: Dave Horne]  
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Originally Posted by Dave Horne
If the piano samples are in stereo, you'd want a stereo set up, right?


If you're doing stage performance, the piano may be fed _monophonically_ to the PA system. In stereo, one side of the house gets the bass, the other side gets the treble, and the keyboard seems to be 20' wide.

I've been content with one good speaker (EV ZXA1); I couldn't afford two of them.

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. . . You can always use professional headphones until you make your choice.


+1.

You can try whatever DP you buy with the guitar amp. Most people say that guitar amps (and their speakers) are "colored", and not as good as either powered near-field monitor speakers, or good PA speakers. [I haven't tested, and have no personal opinion.] Trust your own ears.

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#2212884 - 01/11/14 03:28 PM Re: Speakers for slab style digital piano [Re: 2726]  
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Products marketed as "keyboard amps" tend not to be so great for piano.

Guitar amps are generally poor for piano, but since yours is specifically an acoustic guitar amp, it might fare better.

I like the EV ZXa1 mentioned, it's pretty natural sounding, reasonably priced, lightweight. On the higher end, I like the JBL PRX625, also very natural, can go a lot louder if need be, and can provide a much bigger bottom than what you can get out of the EV's 8", as good as it is. EV also has a new lower priced (but heavier) line that is supposed to be good (I think that has a 12").

If it's for a fixed installation, though (rather than gigging), then people often prefer "studio monitor" style speakers rather than PA style speakers.

I don't think stereo is essential (and always say that one good speaker is better than two crappy ones), but this, also, may be more of a factor for home/studio use rather than gigging.

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#2213047 - 01/11/14 08:16 PM Re: Speakers for slab style digital piano [Re: 2726]  
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Originally Posted by 2726
So, still trying to figure out all of this stuff and what I want to wind up with.

If I were to buy a slab style DP such as a Kawai MP6 (or new model if released at NAMM), what works best for speakers? I have had recommendations for something like KRK Rokit speakers, but also wondering about a keyboard amplifier?

I play guitar and have a Trace Elliot 100W acoustic guitar amp, but don't know enough about the differences (if any) between an acoustic guitar amp and a keyboard amp. My Trace Elliot amp has a 10 or 12" woofer on the bottom and two 4" speakers above that in the amp cabinet.

Thanks again in advance for your advice and this great forum of knowledge!!

Jim


I use the KRK5's for my synths and they sound fantastic; however I know some people might want the subwoofer made by them as well.
In general these sound clearer than keyboard amplifiers and guitar amplifiers focus on a different dynamic range and would not be suitable for a piano sound.
For a smaller room I find the 5" monitors to be good. It is all about personal preference, but in my opinion monitors are the better way to go


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#2213052 - 01/11/14 08:32 PM Re: Speakers for slab style digital piano [Re: anotherscott]  
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Originally Posted by anotherscott
Products marketed as "keyboard amps" tend not to be so great for piano.

Guitar amps are generally poor for piano, but since yours is specifically an acoustic guitar amp, it might fare better.

I like the EV ZXa1 mentioned, it's pretty natural sounding, reasonably priced, lightweight. On the higher end, I like the JBL PRX625, also very natural, can go a lot louder if need be, and can provide a much bigger bottom than what you can get out of the EV's 8", as good as it is. EV also has a new lower priced (but heavier) line that is supposed to be good (I think that has a 12").

If it's for a fixed installation, though (rather than gigging), then people often prefer "studio monitor" style speakers rather than PA style speakers.

I don't think stereo is essential (and always say that one good speaker is better than two crappy ones), but this, also, may be more of a factor for home/studio use rather than gigging.


I read somewhere that some people actually use a "good set" of pc speakers for home use with stage keyboard. Would you have a recommendation for a good set this, as I am looking at stage pianos to use for home, and dont really need all the massive sound of actual amps.


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#2213209 - 01/12/14 04:00 AM Re: Speakers for slab style digital piano [Re: carkar]  
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I've recently hooked up a pair of Tannoy Reveal 501a powered speakers to my current keyboard. $110 each on Amazon with very positive reviews - and they're sounding VERY good here at home.

#2213214 - 01/12/14 04:30 AM Re: Speakers for slab style digital piano [Re: carkar]  
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Originally Posted by carkar
I read somewhere that some people actually use a "good set" of pc speakers for home use with stage keyboard. Would you have a recommendation for a good set this, as I am looking at stage pianos to use for home, and dont really need all the massive sound of actual amps.


I use these here:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-980-...=1389515282&sr=8-1&keywords=Z623

They sound good - I have no complaints. They certainly sound a lot better than the built-in speakers. Not quite sure if I would actually need the subwoofer, though.

#2213341 - 01/12/14 12:39 PM Re: Speakers for slab style digital piano [Re: 2726]  
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I'm using a pair of Logitech Z-2300s (no longer made, but you can find them on eBay) that work quite nicely. Proper speaker placement is important. I had to put them up on stands and move them around a bit before they really sounded right.

Having a little extra oomph through the subwoofer does seem to make a difference to me, although with larger studio monitors it probably wouldn't matter.

#2213368 - 01/12/14 01:39 PM Re: Speakers for slab style digital piano [Re: 2726]  
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I used Dell 5650 surround speakers that I built into a cabinet for a digital piano. These are 100 watts and yet very compact. The subwoofer really gives a nice deep bass. You should be able to find these quite easily on the used market.


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