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#2211193 - 01/08/14 11:52 PM 1971 Mason & Hamlin console  
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I have a really nice Mason & Hamlin console. The hammers were delaminated/ exploded so I put in a new set of Abels. Several hammer butt return springs were broken, so I replaced them all. They are heavier springs than original. Now I have a serious hard escapement. Mmmm!

I am wondering if it really has a deformation of the hammer butt buckskin, or too tight return springs, or something else.

Any ideas welcome. The piano is worth the trouble.


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#2211194 - 01/08/14 11:58 PM Re: 1971 Mason & Hamlin console [Re: Davepost]  
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It is probably the springs. They will weaken a bit with use, or you can bend them back a bit.


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#2211201 - 01/09/14 12:21 AM Re: 1971 Mason & Hamlin console [Re: Davepost]  
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You might be surprised. Some customers like the heavier "touch"


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#2211219 - 01/09/14 12:52 AM Re: 1971 Mason & Hamlin console [Re: Davepost]  
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If the new hammers are heavier this would account for what you are feeling because of the increase in inertia and friction. It is most likely that the Abel hammers are heavier than the Aeolien M&H.

The springs are intended to have the tension adjusted after installation. They are made too strong because weakening is easier than strengthening.


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#2211309 - 01/09/14 08:08 AM Re: 1971 Mason & Hamlin console [Re: Davepost]  
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That's what I thought. Thanks for the input.


David Postma, Associate Member, PTG Lansing, Michigan Chapter. www.davepostma.com Conover 9 ft. 4" (Mason & Hamlin CC-1) Conover 7 ft, Conover 6 ft 2, Conover 5ft 10 model 77, Conver 66 Fairy grand 5 ft 4, Baldwin L, Baldwin R, Baldwin M, Chickering 123,
#2211315 - 01/09/14 08:15 AM Re: 1971 Mason & Hamlin console [Re: Davepost]  
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Another thing to check is the return-spring groves in the hammer butt. The old wire may have been thinner and the new ends may be digging in a bit.


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#2212672 - 01/11/14 08:40 AM Re: 1971 Mason & Hamlin console [Re: Davepost]  
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Springs working better with lessening the tension, BUT!

Help! It is not buckskin on the hammer buts, but a bicolor material that is grey fuzz on the bottom and dark brown on the top. It is not like Baldwin's corfam. It has compressed where the jack strikes and rubs, turned shiny and really Sticky! Aweful stuff. What is this?

I ordered a supply of Ecsaine, and am planning to replace it all.

Any ideas?


David Postma, Associate Member, PTG Lansing, Michigan Chapter. www.davepostma.com Conover 9 ft. 4" (Mason & Hamlin CC-1) Conover 7 ft, Conover 6 ft 2, Conover 5ft 10 model 77, Conver 66 Fairy grand 5 ft 4, Baldwin L, Baldwin R, Baldwin M, Chickering 123,

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