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#2209140 01/06/14 06:07 AM
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A happy new year to all piano enthusiasts!

I got a new grand piano for my studio in Berlin. Anyone has an idea, what type it could be?

https://soundcloud.com/piano-recording-berlin-de

(Updated Link: The first two Debussy Preludes are recorded with the new RX7)

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Is this one of these trick questions where it's actually a software piano? ;-)

If you must know, I can't guess!


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No software...


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So it's an acoustic grand?


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I can't guess the make all that well, but it has a very clear attack, yet quite a warm sound.

I'm thinking along the lines of Bechstein or Grotrian-Steinweg, I don't really know what's leading me to say that (not that Bechstein or Grotrian sound too similar!)


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Thanks for this first educated guess!

We all know, that it is extremly difficult to find out a piano brand just by hearing. But I'm so curious, what people say to my new instrument. So don't be shy!


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Is it a Großauer? wink

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I know that it doesn't seem to sound like what I know.
I don't think it's a Schimmel (brighter) and it's not a Steinway either.


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Whatever it is, it is a fine sounding piano. It's too difficult to know in today's market whether it is European or Far-Eastern because there are many fine sounding examples of both.

What I think is that its size is between 178 and 210 centimetres, but sounds more in the 185-193 cm region - just a hunch based on the pianos I've played in the past.

I don't think it's a Bluthner, but I could be wrong, and I'm almost certain it isn't a Bosendorfer either. It may be a Feurich (chinese made) that has been well-prepared, or going on your profile signature it could be something from the Grossauer shop, perhaps a Kawai - which is also a fine sounding piano, and can be mistaken for a European piano on many a recording.


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The piano is recorded in a small Studio with 3 mics, close. A little Reverb added, no other effecs. So what you hear, is realy the piano.


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Grotrian Steinweg,

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It certainly sounds very nice…
I am very new at this game, but I'll give a whirl. The lower register sounds a bit like a Bösendorfer… but that might be too obvious.


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I think Bechstein or Fazioli. Clean, bell-like tone, not harsh or "bright" even at ff. Maybe a Yamaha CX (think they warmed up the C for the CX...)

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I'm with frenchflip. At first I was going to guess a Bechstein but after listening again, especially to the Chopin, I think it's a Fazioli. The attack on the treble is crisp without being harsh and the base is smooth and silky. Whatever it is, I think it's a concert. It sounds big!

I sure hope you don't keep us in suspense too long! wow


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My gut instinct is that it's a Bechstein. Maybe not a new one. But I'm probably wrong.

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No, it is a semi-concert. Smaler grands to me have a much more compressed sound. In a way they seem to be louder. I recently tested a Petrof 2,84 side by side with a Steinway A, the Steinway subjektively sounded much louder.

You can hear what I mean, when you compare the new recordings with my preavious instrument, a Kawai RX5 (197):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_We-G3r_19g

It is a completly different sound, much more compressed and midrange-oriented. It's the same room and micing!

My new piano has a very wide and open sound, as far as my experience goes, this is only possible with semi- and concert grands.

You can easyly get some boom with the rommposition, as you can study here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgm6Y_ROcQw
This piano seems to sound fuller, but it is obviously the room (the wall) and not the piano.


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So, what is your new grand?

By the way the RX5 also sounds excellent.


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I'm not certain it's Fazioli - it doesn't have quite the cantabile of the Faziolis that I've played, but that could be the recording and the room....


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Doesn't matter what kind of piano it is. It sounds beautiful! So congratulations are in order.

And I loved listening to the nocturne.

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Noam's right. It sounds sublime and I'm more than a wee bit jealous, but oh so pleased for you.


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