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I agree about the potential of rental to start with. However, many dealership rent out crap for beginners.
Elijah, do you have any friends who are pianists who might help you with the selection? Road trips can be fun!
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That's fine for you. However that might not be the viewpoint of a considerate parent attempting to do the best for his children. Those of us who are versed in the pedagogy of piano instruction tend to differ with baseless comments and 'opinion.' that's fine. i have a strad and you don't neener neener neener. anyway lol
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To the OP: Some people on this thread like to get into comments about what they deem as right. Ignore this. We all have opinions. Now, on the Digital Vs. Piano....I had a Roland Top Line Digital. Weighted action. It attempted to mimic true piano action. It failed epically at doing so. I was estatic when I got a real piano. The touch is not there in the more played regions, but in the bass, it kicks the heck out of fake actions. Digital pianos can be a blessing for people with no space, and can save money. They're great for people who want to toy around with pianos and practice. But if your children or you are serious about wanting to learn piano, even a well cared for spinet like a Baldwin or Wurli would be much better. The roland has sat there and has not been played since. The adapter died on me a while back. I found it such a joy to plug in my piano each time I had to play it, reaching behind the wall and struggling to get the prongs in. There are no acoustics in a digital. It 'samples' the sound. Even though the tone may be better, it has no resonance. Speakers vs. Soundboards do not cut it. Seeing though that you've steered more towards Consoles or Studios, the Baldwin Hamilton is a FINE choice. I would suggest it. The schools here use them, and they are RUGGED. Built to last, american made wood-not cheap plastic. I highly doubt that there will be '50 year old Roland Digitals' for sale in the future.....good luck. Keep searching for your piano! Just my 2 cents.
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The Yamaha looks a thousand times better than all that old stuff. Pianos are not wines, they do not get better with age. They're more like cars.
The guy says he just bought it a year ago, assuming it was new and if he paid $3500 that's about the new price.
$1000 for a year old Yamaha is a really good deal. Moving it for 4 hours is going to be a bit more. We used some cheap movers (when moving our house) and 2-guys were about $60/hr I think, and they charge when they're driving too.
The seller will probably go down a bit to help you with the move, call around and find some cheap movers. Maybe ask one of your Chinese friends ^_^.
Yes, it might not sound so much better than 1968 Baldwin but it defiantly looks a lot a lot better... I emailed seller to see what would his bottom price would be. Seller/2nd owner said he bought it used from piano store... first owner brought it for trade on baby grand... My brother, who has 25 - 30yr old Wurlitzer also really liked it and said it's probably worth the trip/shipping. He would even wanted to upgrade his for it.
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The Yamaha looks a thousand times better than all that old stuff. Pianos are not wines, they do not get better with age. They're more like cars.
The guy says he just bought it a year ago, assuming it was new and if he paid $3500 that's about the new price.
$1000 for a year old Yamaha is a really good deal. Moving it for 4 hours is going to be a bit more. We used some cheap movers (when moving our house) and 2-guys were about $60/hr I think, and they charge when they're driving too.
The seller will probably go down a bit to help you with the move, call around and find some cheap movers. Maybe ask one of your Chinese friends ^_^.
-Yamaha for $1000, was sold yesterday (the 2nd day that it was posted for sale) Oh well, it was a little too much for me but was very good deal.
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To the OP: Some people on this thread like to get into comments about what they deem as right. Ignore this. We all have opinions. Now, on the Digital Vs. Piano....I had a Roland Top Line Digital. Weighted action. It attempted to mimic true piano action. It failed epically at doing so. I was estatic when I got a real piano. The touch is not there in the more played regions, but in the bass, it kicks the heck out of fake actions. Digital pianos can be a blessing for people with no space, and can save money. They're great for people who want to toy around with pianos and practice. But if your children or you are serious about wanting to learn piano, even a well cared for spinet like a Baldwin or Wurli would be much better. The roland has sat there and has not been played since. The adapter died on me a while back. I found it such a joy to plug in my piano each time I had to play it, reaching behind the wall and struggling to get the prongs in. There are no acoustics in a digital. It 'samples' the sound. Even though the tone may be better, it has no resonance. Speakers vs. Soundboards do not cut it. Seeing though that you've steered more towards Consoles or Studios, the Baldwin Hamilton is a FINE choice. I would suggest it. The schools here use them, and they are RUGGED. Built to last, american made wood-not cheap plastic. I highly doubt that there will be '50 year old Roland Digitals' for sale in the future.....good luck. Keep searching for your piano! Just my 2 cents. yeah you're right, forget digitals. as a matter of fact, forget the piano and get a real instrument: harpsichord or lute.
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Thank you Marty, I thought it is much better to get a real one and it looks like it is.
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i am referring to the $300 baldwin that the current owners have deemed unworthy to move with them (safe to assume it needs an overhaul). And just exactly how can you make that assumption? they're moving, that thing is no more effort than a bed or couch. if they actually prized it (and used/maintained it regularly), they'd take it with them. i'm guessing it hasn't been touched in years and they've decided to ditch it. so $5-600 for an old console... i'd rather start with a new digital. The $300 Baldwin is located on a 2nd floor and could be the reason they don't wont to pay delivery/shipping costs. The seller is original owner who purchased it for kids to learn and play. Now kids don't live in the house anymore and they are moving (probably downsizing but I didn't ask) She told me that I will need to take it downstairs myself. (and that it would take at least 2 people that know what they are doing to get it down)
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i am referring to the $300 baldwin that the current owners have deemed unworthy to move with them (safe to assume it needs an overhaul). And just exactly how can you make that assumption? they're moving, that thing is no more effort than a bed or couch. if they actually prized it (and used/maintained it regularly), they'd take it with them. i'm guessing it hasn't been touched in years and they've decided to ditch it. so $5-600 for an old console... i'd rather start with a new digital. The $300 Baldwin is located on a 2nd floor and could be the reason they don't wont to pay delivery/shipping costs. The seller is original owner who purchased it for kids to learn and play. Now kids don't live in the house anymore and they are moving (probably downsizing but I didn't ask) She told me that I will need to take it downstairs myself. (and that it would take at least 2 people that know what they are doing to get it down) ok, hope everything works out. (btw, i don't sell pianos, i'm just a tech geek)
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To the OP: Some people on this thread like to get into comments about what they deem as right. Ignore this. We all have opinions. Now, on the Digital Vs. Piano....I had a Roland Top Line Digital. Weighted action. It attempted to mimic true piano action. It failed epically at doing so. I was estatic when I got a real piano. The touch is not there in the more played regions, but in the bass, it kicks the heck out of fake actions. Digital pianos can be a blessing for people with no space, and can save money. They're great for people who want to toy around with pianos and practice. But if your children or you are serious about wanting to learn piano, even a well cared for spinet like a Baldwin or Wurli would be much better. The roland has sat there and has not been played since. The adapter died on me a while back. I found it such a joy to plug in my piano each time I had to play it, reaching behind the wall and struggling to get the prongs in. There are no acoustics in a digital. It 'samples' the sound. Even though the tone may be better, it has no resonance. Speakers vs. Soundboards do not cut it. Seeing though that you've steered more towards Consoles or Studios, the Baldwin Hamilton is a FINE choice. I would suggest it. The schools here use them, and they are RUGGED. Built to last, american made wood-not cheap plastic. I highly doubt that there will be '50 year old Roland Digitals' for sale in the future.....good luck. Keep searching for your piano! Just my 2 cents. Thank you for your advice!!! I am pretty sure my kids will be playing it and I will need it for years. (out of 4 of my siblings who took private piano lessons, 3 plays piano very good and learned guitar on their own) Also, my wife sings very good. My mom gave my older brother and my younger brother to piano lessens when we were kids. (not sure if I showed no interest or she thought that I will learn from them...) I did recently took some guitar lessons and bought a guitar last year but don't put that much time into learning, maybe giving kids to personal piano lessons will help me put more time into music myself. Thank you all for your help!!! I will update on what I find and buy. Elijah
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i am referring to the $300 baldwin that the current owners have deemed unworthy to move with them (safe to assume it needs an overhaul). And just exactly how can you make that assumption? they're moving, that thing is no more effort than a bed or couch. if they actually prized it (and used/maintained it regularly), they'd take it with them. i'm guessing it hasn't been touched in years and they've decided to ditch it. so $5-600 for an old console... i'd rather start with a new digital. The $300 Baldwin is located on a 2nd floor and could be the reason they don't wont to pay delivery/shipping costs. The seller is original owner who purchased it for kids to learn and play. Now kids don't live in the house anymore and they are moving (probably downsizing but I didn't ask) She told me that I will need to take it downstairs myself. (and that it would take at least 2 people that know what they are doing to get it down) ok, hope everything works out. (btw, i don't sell pianos, i'm just a tech geek) Thank you, I will try to ask all the questions and be very careful of buying a used piano....
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