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I was looking at possible alternatives for the defective keyboard in my other post, and I came across Yamaha`s schedule of events for NAMM 2014, where they mention a new digital piano announcement called the p255. Any one know anything about it? http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/12/prweb11435871.htm
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Sounds like it uses the new CFIIS sample set they used in the CP4/CP40.
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I assume upgrade to to the 2006 P155. Better sound engine/samples like David mentioned. Action might still be GH or possibly new GH wood. Maybe decent onboard speakers that can project like a CP300 but without the huge size.
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As long as we're speculating ...
Better sound engine? Yamaha hasn't introduced any such since the late 90s.
Wood keyboard? Not in this price range.
I expect only minor changes, so I'll guess that the 255 is just a 155, but with the 1 changed to a 2.
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Typically, when companies come out with upgrades to to older models, the newer models tend to sell at the same price point as the older model (think iPad 1,2,3, etc).With that said, do you guys think that the p-255 will cost the same as the 155 does now? I don't really know how Yamaha world in this regard.
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What about the TransAcoustic piano? It seems like a digital upright with a sounboard instead of speakers.
On a second look, it seems like an acoustic piano with digital capabilities; still, no speakers. It would be nice to see the AvantGrands with a soundboard-only system.
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Well... as we say here in Brazil, it will come out using a new perfume. Nothing new, no real improvement... now if the price of the P-155 drop, then, the P-155 will be a better deal.
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The page says:
"The powerful and portable P-255 digital piano includes Pure CF Sampling from a Yamaha CFIIIS concert grand for its piano tone."
The P155 already has Pure CF sampling of a CFIIIS, so I wouldn't even assume the piano sound will be any different.
For those hoping for something revolutionary (or getting down on Yamaha for the fact that it almost certainly will not be), budget instruments are not where you should expect any kind of great advance. The P255 will probably simply be a mild updating... either an incremental improvement over the P155, or a more economized version. I just hope they don't take out the MIDI connectors.
What I'd like to see is an effective merging of the CP33 and the P155. It's a shame you have to choose between internal speakers and MIDI controller functionality, one board should be able to do both. The CP300 is too heavy.
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As long as we're speculating ...
Better sound engine? Yamaha hasn't introduced any such since the late 90s.
Wood keyboard? Not in this price range.
I expect only minor changes, so I'll guess that the 255 is just a 155, but with the 1 changed to a 2. So true. Probably same shell as CP4 & 40 but with speakers. Yamaha figuring a way to cut cost on production.
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Yes, I wonder how they could improve the P155 without pressing the price considerably upward. True, new models start with a higher price, even without much change, so the P155 might be more tempting if it drops in price. Then the marketing people at Yamaha most certainly know that.
The P95 wasn't much improvement from P85, although P105 introduced a bit more ambition quality- and featurewise. Yamaha P155 isn't exactly feature-rich, so they must think of some extra features in a possible P255. Still, I fear it will mostly be old wine on new wineskins.
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Assuming YDP and P lines are basically the same board with or without the cabinet (P-105 and YDP-142; P-155 and YDP-161) I'm betting the so called P255 will be very similar to the current YDP-162, which means, aside from cosmetic changes, new sound engine and ivory key tops.
I'd also expect it to keep the $999 price tag.
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Typically,after these pianos are officially announced,how long before the product actually becomes available?
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The page says:
"The powerful and portable P-255 digital piano includes Pure CF Sampling from a Yamaha CFIIIS concert grand for its piano tone."
The P155 already has Pure CF sampling of a CFIIIS, so I wouldn't even assume the piano sound will be any different.
For those hoping for something revolutionary (or getting down on Yamaha for the fact that it almost certainly will not be), budget instruments are not where you should expect any kind of great advance. The P255 will probably simply be a mild updating... either an incremental improvement over the P155, or a more economized version. I just hope they don't take out the MIDI connectors.
What I'd like to see is an effective merging of the CP33 and the P155. It's a shame you have to choose between internal speakers and MIDI controller functionality, one board should be able to do both. The CP300 is too heavy.
My guess is, joining in the speculation, that the web page quote you quote is just taken from the P155 page, and it will be updated before release to state CFX which was the tone upgrade for the CP4. Hopefully for the same price point there will be other incremental improvements, especially the keys.
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I'll guess that the 255 is just a 155, but with the 1 changed to a 2. An Optimist!
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GH3 and faux-ivory keys for $999 too much to ask?
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I hope it doesn't make rattling noises like the P105. This made the P105 a downgrade for many from the P95.
-I wonder if this will drive the P155 price down to clear them out- it might make it a better deal than the P255.
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What about the TransAcoustic piano? It seems like a digital upright with a sounboard instead of speakers.
On a second look, it seems like an acoustic piano with digital capabilities; still, no speakers. It would be nice to see the AvantGrands with a soundboard-only system. Nobody react on this info ? As It might interest me if they issue some new hybrid pianos.. No more info ?
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It looks like the TransAcoustic concept was introduced last April at Musikmesse. It was installed on a C3X. So it is an acoustic-based hybrid (like the Disklavier); however, it will not use speakers for the digital sounds. Only a soundboard for both acoustic (piano) and digital sounds will be used. I believe this is a first.
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Wow! Excellent find, but I sure hope that price tag changes...that's $1,800, nearly 1k more than the currently priced P-155.
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