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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
jazzwee #2195586 12/10/13 02:53 PM
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Cool! Enough here to RAISE my Christmas Spirit!

Now specifically as far as my gig is concerned, I'm looking for more uptempo (no Ballads), Jazz Swing/Latin/Bossa that are good for blowing over. The crowd in this gig doesn't handle ballads well (maybe because they're so noisy).

For example, Have Yourself a Merry Christmas is fantastic for chord changes (like My Romance) but I'd have to come up with some idea to make it more energetic.


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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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If you've got a tune with I IV V, or some other progression that isn't too exciting, use it as an exercise to see how many II-Vs you can add, before the IV, V or any other chord. Or, how many times can you add a dominant chord a half step up before the target chord. You can make more complex progressions. Not sure I could do this at anything other than a moderate tempo, so that may be a problem.

Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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I think a good example of what you're talking about is Let it Snow. The jazz changes are fast moving and difficult. Played it last night and I've never seen the changes before. Lots of dominant chords (not enough time for the ii chord). But in my ear, it's just a simple I-IV-V tune.

I'd probably never take this reharm step live though. I'd have to practice it first. Thanks for forcing me to think about it.


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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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What's with all the hassle? All you need is the blues scale . . : [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=CBIhbZPOJAE[/video]

Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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jazzwee: I've rarely been able to do that live. I thought maye you could lead the way!

Chrisbell: VERY clever.

Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
jazzwee #2196819 12/13/13 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jazzwee


...It's got to be jazz sounding and great to blow over. Unfortunately most tunes are I-IV-V...

Anyway, I'd love to hear some ideas.


Hmm, what music isn't really just I V I dressed up a bit? The trick is to treat each chord as potential movement within the stability.
So, for Frosty the Snowman which is basically only those three chords, why not play ( in C for instance) C, Dm G7, C Gm7 C7 F F#m7b5 B7 Em Gm7 C7 over the lyrics 'Frosty the Snowman was a Jolly Happy Soul' effectively changing the C to F to C into something more jazz friendly. Many other additions and subs can be added too of course, but those are the most easy and obvious.


edit: oh...I see all the NPR stuff Chris posted. Some stellar stuff there!

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Recordings of my recent solo piano and piano/keyboard trio jazz standards.


Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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long story short--changed jobs, was practicing guitar, violin and cello for about 4 months-- no time for anything. Getting a bit fat too...
But now I have some time again! Man, will this thread ever die? wink


Recordings of my recent solo piano and piano/keyboard trio jazz standards.


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Silent Night (Reharm)

|Cmaj7#11 |Cmaj7 |B-7b5 |E7b9#9 |
|A-7b5 |Ab7#9 |G-7 |C7 |
|E-7b5 |A7b9 |D-7 |G7 |
|E-7b5 |A7b9 | Ab7#11 |Ab7#5 |
|F#-7b5 | B7b9 | E-7b5 |A7b9 |
|A-7 |D7 |EbMaj7 |AbMaj7 |

This is how we'll be playing it next week. Anyone wants to try it out?




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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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Love to try it out. Sadly, we're having our floors redone and my piano is in the laundry room and inaccessible. I'll try it out on Monday.

Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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Originally Posted by jazzwee
Silent Night (Reharm)

|Cmaj7#11 |Cmaj7 |B-7b5 |E7b9#9 |
|A-7b5 |Ab7#9 |G-7 |C7 |
|E-7b5 |A7b9 |D-7 |G7 |
|E-7b5 |A7b9 | Ab7#11 |Ab7#5 |
|F#-7b5 | B7b9 | E-7b5 |A7b9 |
|A-7 |D7 |EbMaj7 |AbMaj7 |

This is how we'll be playing it next week. Anyone wants to try it out?

I tried the first two lines. When you say this is a reharm, does this mean that the basic chordal structure dismissed? The first four chords are usually I, or based upon I, then lead to V, or things based on V leading back to I. From what I heard in this reharm, this is taking another approach. Maybe using the ii and v subs, but never resolving to any of the structure chords?
It's interesting stuff. I'd love to hear a recording of it.


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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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Slient Night (V2.0)
|Cmaj7#11 |Cmaj7 |B-7b5 |E7b9#9 |
|A-7b5 |Ab7#9 |G-7 |C7 |
|E-7b5 |A7b9 |D-7 |G7 |
|E-7b5 |A7b9 | Ab7#11 |Ab7#5 |
|F#-7b5 | B7b9 | E-7b5 |A7b9 |
|A-7 |D-7 |EbMaj7 |AbMaj7 |

Made a slight modification above on the last line. Mainly I'm changing to make sure the Singer doesn't get lost so I made the harmony closer.

So as a reharm, it's basically completely different harmonically but the original melody fits in it.

We will be performing this on Thursday but in the meantime I've been playing with it solo piano to tweak it. I wouldn't even think to analyze this since the idea is to come up with something completely different. The only guide here is the melody.



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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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Here's another one I'm doing. Reharms also but closer. Mostly just chromatic subs and a surprise chord here and there.

White Christmas
| Cmaj7 | B7 | Bb7 | A7 |
| D-7 |G7 |E-7 |A7 |
|C#-7 | F#-7 | F-7 | Bb7 |

1.
|A7 | Ab7 | D-7b5 | G7 |

2
|A7 |D-7b5 G7 | C F | F#7 G7 |

We'll probably do this as a Bossa.


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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
jazzwee #2199115 12/17/13 12:42 PM
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I got the news from several well-reputable sources. It was false. Apologies to him and his family.

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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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Silent Night (Reharmonization)
https://app.box.com/s/3zzesoglt1jjxw6s6sbe

Sloppy but we played it for the first time and only once. And I didn't even expect the singer to actually come in. We were prepared for an instrumental head. I learned a few things here. It's very hard to do a Reharm with a singer because they have to stick to melody and ignore the harmony.

The other thing is that strong melodies (like Silent Night) can easily be understood with a reharm.

Also with a singer, we could have played it straight on the head and then switch to the reharm.

Anyway, a fresh experience for me doing a reharm in such a major way.



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Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players
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hey wee, had a listen to your Silent night. couldn't really hear the reharm, as the sound quality was a bit muffled. and the singer's voice dominates so I can't hear your chords.

I liked this version with Kenny Barron. wouldn't call it a full reharm but he throws in the some nice chords.

http://www.npr.org/2010/12/16/132054036/a-jazz-piano-christmas-2010

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I got the news from several well-reputable sources. It was false. Apologies to him and his family.


hey Chris, what are you referring to here?

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I got the news from several well-reputable sources. It was false. Apologies to him and his family.


hey Chris, what are you referring to here?
The demise of Horace Silver.

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