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#2195134 - 12/09/13 05:36 PM Most spectacular concert venues in the world  
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What would be on your list? I'm talking mostly about the architectural qualities/beauty/significance of the space and not the acoustic qualities and hoping you'll add a YouTube video or picture showing the hall.

I've been to Carnegie Hall countless times including for a performance of the Mahler Symphony of a Thousand, but that hall seems far less spectacular then the Royal Albert Hall in London. Some would say that Carnegie makes up for its relative lack of size by its immense historical significance.

From the Royal Albert Hall:

Jerusalem at the Proms 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ0oCmDXrVk

Bemjamin Grosvenor at the opening night Proms concert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvc8W_c7DbM

Lang Lang solo concert at the Proms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uAtPdfEAKg

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#2195186 - 12/09/13 06:48 PM Re: Most spectacular concert venues in the world [Re: pianoloverus]  
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The Royal Albert Hall is definitely the most impressive concert venue I've ever been in (with a cavernous acoustic to boot), but I haven't been in some other impressive European venues like the Gro▀er Musikvereinssaal, Vienna, or the Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, or the Gro▀er Saal, Berliner Philharmonie - though none of them can compare in size to the RAH.

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#2195215 - 12/09/13 07:25 PM Re: Most spectacular concert venues in the world [Re: pianoloverus]  
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I'd always say "Carnegie" for #1 because I find it impossible to separate out its history from other details. BTW I'm surprised you'd characterize it as having a "relative lack of size." I guess that's a huger criterion (no pun intended) for you than for me, and our standards are very different. I think Carnegie is plenty big, and moreover, I hardly consider size a criterion at all for what you asked about.

In fact, as my runner-up to Carnegie, I'd give a nod to the Monte-Carlo Opera House, which is pretty small. I don't know if they have piano recitals, but why not.... smile


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I've been to quite a few in the States, but for me, the "spectacular" ones were the outdoor venues like Tanglewood, the Sheep Meadow in New York City and Millenium Park in Chicago. The combined ambiance of city lights, good food and wine, sparkling stars and snuggling next to someone special tops all the indoor venues. (Hearing the 1812 Overture with the sound and smell of real cannons at Tanglewood was memorable to say the least!)


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#2195334 - 12/09/13 11:22 PM Re: Most spectacular concert venues in the world [Re: gooddog]  
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Originally Posted by gooddog
....for me, the "spectacular" ones were the outdoor venues like Tanglewood, the Sheep Meadow in New York City and Millenium Park in Chicago. The combined ambiance of city lights, good food and wine, sparkling stars and snuggling next to someone special tops all the indoor venues....

There's much to be said for that. I've been to a couple of the ones you mentioned and I didn't experience them quite that way, but at a similar thing in Milwaukee (of all places!), in their annual "Summerfest," hearing Van Cliburn play the Grieg Concerto amidst the open country space, with country lights and with city lights in the background, and the rest of what you said, I'd have to say it beat Carnegie Hall and the Monte Carlo Opera House.

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Originally Posted by Mark_C
[...]In fact, as my runner-up to Carnegie, I'd give a nod to the Monte-Carlo Opera House, which is pretty small. I don't know if they have piano recitals, but why not.... smile



Torna a Surriento, a Neapolitan song by Ernesto de Curtis, written in 1902, sung in this video by Luciano Pavarotti

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spira tantu sentimento,
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Guarda gua' chistu ciardino;
Siente, siente sciure arance:
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#2195378 - 12/10/13 01:46 AM Re: Most spectacular concert venues in the world [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Though I can't say I've been to many, Royal Albert is the very definition of astonishing. It was so amazingly magical inside; I didn't want to leave.


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#2195422 - 12/10/13 06:01 AM Re: Most spectacular concert venues in the world [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Nice thread! OpÚra Garnier in Paris is breathtakingly beautiful, by far my favorite among the places I have been so far:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palais_Garnier

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The Palau de Musica Catalana in Barcelona is a spectacular venue in the art deco style.

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You people need to get out more. Those old relics are history.
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The theatre at the Usupov palace is my pick. It is small enough for a piano recital . It has a C. Bechstein concert grand in white that goes vwry well with all the gold leaf. If you would like to see it , go to . youtube .Rene Fleming and Demitri Hvorostovsky at the Usupov Palace. They are not bad singers.

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Originally Posted by Plowboy
You people need to get out more. Those old relics are history.
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You're saying that modern glitz and bling supplant historical gilt and opulence? smile

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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Plowboy
You people need to get out more. Those old relics are history.
[...]

You're saying that modern glitz and bling supplant historical gilt and opulence? smile

"Modern glitz and bling" is putting it kindly. Plain 'ol "ugly" works for me.

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I prefer smaller halls with smaller settings.

Generally I don't like the big-loud stuff so much. It very quickly get muddy, only the very best orchestras with extremely good timing and relatively dry hall can make it work for me. And without trumpets please, once they set in I need my ear plugs and that really does not help what I hear.


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Originally Posted by BruceD

You're saying that modern glitz and bling supplant historical gilt and opulence? smile


That hall has wonderful sound.


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All in all, my favorite is the Golden Hall in the Musikverein in Vienna, both visually and aurally. The acoustics are superb! It's tasteful in a restrained, but glorious, way.

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Segerstrom Hall in Costa Mesa is a very nice venue. Excellent acoustics.
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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
All in all, my favorite is the Golden Hall in the Musikverein in Vienna, both visually and aurally. The acoustics are superb! It's tasteful in a restrained, but glorious, way.[Linked Image]
I had seen this venue before and thought it was quite incredible. I wonder why the have such a wide aisle going down the center. Perhaps to help the audience get a better view of the stage?

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PLU - That isn't a wide aisle, but rather, the backs of the center section seats. You can see the two side isles to the left and right of the center section. It's just an oddity of the photograph.


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I am not sure it is really one of the best venues in terms of acoustics (well, definitely not), but it certainly is beautiful...
When I lived in Sydney sometimes they organized night concerts with the stage on water (Sydney Harbour), and it looked magnificent with the reflections of the light on the water around the stage etc.



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=041nXAAn714

Including this additional video from the Royal Albert Hall mostly for the thrilling musical sequence. After a rousing rendition of Jerusalem similar to the one in the first post, the conductor quiets the enthusiastic audience(at 3:00) to utter silence and begins a pp a capella rendition(reminds me of the Mahler 8th)of God Save the Queen which then crescendos to ff on the second verse.

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I will make an unexpected nomination, for acoustical quality, AND historical significance, AND beauty:

Chicago's "Auditorium Theater". Chicago's Auditorium Theater "Landmark Stage" website

It was sometimes called the "eighth wonder of the world". The very large building, located at Wabash and East Congress Parkway, is now then home of Roosevelt University (which also owns the building). Design and Construction supervision was done by Denkmar Alder and Louis Sullivan. It is about to celebrate its 125th anniversary. (Frank Llyod Wright was also working as a draftsman in their office at this time, and he may have made some contributions to the design and/or decorations.)

It is not Sullivan's most influential work, (just look at any "Skyscraper"; Sullivan invented them). The building's exterior is fairly dull, not as memorable as the partners' greatest large-scale builidngs. But the auditorium itself is an incredible, outstanding realization of early "Prairie School" architectury, using stone arches and traditional decoration (ears of corn, waves of grain, and etc.) in ways which soon became nearly definitive of "early Prairie School" buildings.

It is restored to it's original splendor (mostly, restoration still proceeds.) This incudes old-style incandescent lighting, using carbon filaments. (I understand it to have been the first large building to be lit using ONLY electrical-incandescent technology, without any gas or oil fixtures.)

It was also the World's first large building with central Air Conditioning, which seems to have been nothing more than a temporary fad ha ) Air conditioning was done using electrical blowers over huge blocks of ice.

It's still in use, but not for it's original intended tenants: The Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Lyric Opera abandoned the building, because the amount of seating was just too large for their potential audience. (Chicago's Auditorium Theater can seat an audience of well over 4000 people, while Chicago's Orchestra Hall seats barely 2500. Royal Albert Hall is about 1200 seats larger than the Auditorium Theater, but has vast areas of poor sound and sight among those seats.)

Unfortunately (for the finances of the artistic organizations), attendees quickly figured out that the sound quality is nearly identical, nearly perfect, from almost any seat in the hall (and so are the sight lines). It became nearly impossible to charge a great deal more money for the "good" seats, because all the seats were (and are) VERY good. The public didn't buy the "premium seats" at premium prices. And there was nearly always A LOT of empty space available for concert goers who watched their wallets carefully, and waited for last minute "public rush" seating at deep discount prices.

In a rather extreme turn-around from the usual situation, "box seats" were added to the Auditorium as an afterthought, and (IMO) constitute the WORST seats in the Hall.

So, the CSO moved to a much smaller hall a few blocks away (Orchestra Hall on Michigan Avenue). It has only about 2500 seats, and IMO, concerts in Orchestra Hall sound much worse, from many of the "cheap" seats, than they would sound for an audience seated in the Auditorium. But sellouts in Orchestra Hall are quite frequent, suporting higher ticket prices in general; and centered main floor seats do sound a lot better than the cheap seats in the upper side balconies, supporting a big "premium" in pricing according to the specific seating area.

The Auditorium has no permanent resident Orchestra, and hosts a variety of performances - most of them by artists using big, nasty PA systems with "studio" microphones. They aren't necessary, except when Rock Bands (and similar) want to play in competition with a lot of simultaneous audience screaming. A Steinway Model D, alone or with Orchestra, would sound fantastic - even if the hall were completely filled with patrons who chose to drag along their winter clothing.

The hall is absolutely beautiful, both in large scale design and in tiny details. If you are ever in Chicago and have a couple of hours available, you should take one of the public tours. I'm serious, this is one of the World's most amazing (and pretty much neglected) venues.

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I'm just glad we have the Royal Concertgebouw, but we're spoiled.


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Originally Posted by dolce sfogato
I'm just glad we have the Royal Concertgebouw, but we're spoiled.

Don't forget the finest orchestra in the world which comes with the package!


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So they say, well, I equally prefer the Wiener in the Musikverein, or the Berliner in their "Circus Karanjani", or the KCG in the MV or the B.Ph. in the C.K. or the W.PH. in the C.G, they all are fantastic, orchestras and venues.


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Originally Posted by Rick Stockton

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It's still in use, but not for it's original intended tenants: The Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Lyric Opera abandoned the building, because the amount of seating was just too large for their potential audience. (Chicago's Auditorium Theater can seat an audience of well over 4000 people, while Chicago's Orchestra Hall seats barely 2500. Royal Albert Hall is about 1200 seats larger than the Auditorium Theater, but has vast areas of poor sound and sight among those seats.)
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Now we know how many souls it takes to fill the Albert Hall.


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