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I'm slowly learning my SOUND is much better and I feel more confident when I almost let my hands HANG. its interesting.
"Doesn't practicing on the piano suck?!?!" "The joy is in the practicing. It's like relationships. Yeah, orgasms are awesome, but you can't make love to someone who you have no relationship with!"
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Before you say "Pro Tip", you should specify whether you are, in fact, a pro. Pro Tip: the playing mechanism works best when it's aligned properly.
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hahaha im most definitely NOT a pro moreso internet slang for "Helpful hint"
"Doesn't practicing on the piano suck?!?!" "The joy is in the practicing. It's like relationships. Yeah, orgasms are awesome, but you can't make love to someone who you have no relationship with!"
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No worries, I kinda figured that. If you're interested, there are a whole slew of helpful threads on technique, relaxation, etc. You can run a search and find a plethora.. might help you get to that next step even faster.
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If I had a dollar for every time my teacher got on to me about my wrists being too low I think she'd be paying me for lessons.
It definitely helps with making my sound more fluid and even though, so I suppose she's on to something!
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... If you're interested, there are a whole slew of helpful threads on technique, relaxation, etc. You can run a search and find a plethora.. might help you get to that next step even faster. It's hard for me incorporate any of this stuff into my actual playing. I can read about it, believe in it, understand that it is a good idea, wish for it, and visualize it, but I don't really see any manifestation of it when I play.
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You need to be diligent and correct yourself OFTEN. Eventually, its habit and natural.
Also, slow down. You need to practice and understand what its like to play comfortably. If you can't play it slow, you can't play it fast. I can't stress this enough.
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... If you're interested, there are a whole slew of helpful threads on technique, relaxation, etc. You can run a search and find a plethora.. might help you get to that next step even faster. It's hard for me incorporate any of this stuff into my actual playing. I can read about it, believe in it, understand that it is a good idea, wish for it, and visualize it, but I don't really see any manifestation of it when I play. It's tough to hit the pavement with the wheels spinning. Do you practice it diligently, or do it once/twice and then see if it fits in your playing? (I fell into the latter category for years. )
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remember, ANYTHINGS do-able. You just have to put in the work to obtain what you want.
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I'm always amazed at how I have to learn this over and over and over again. The wrists will sink slightly when I'm not aware. It's very hard to monitor everything about your own playing--which makes it wonderful to have an observant teacher. What a difference when you do it right, though!
I have to believe that each time I relearn this, the feeling of the right height will get a little more ingrained.
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My teacher is always asking me to lower my wrists - and they somehow do get a little to high. I wonder if there's middle road, neither to high or to low.
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My teacher is always asking me to lower my wrists - and they somehow do get a little to high. I wonder if there's middle road, neither to high or to low. I have had this problem too. My teacher has worked with me to have a very flexible wrist, dropping and rising with the choreography of the movement of the music. It is never fixed, high or low. I don't think that it is wrong for the wrist to ocasionally be below the level of the keys, and occasionally above the level. It should never be fixed, or held. It depends what you are doing. For me the average high is such that the heel of my hand just brushes the keys.
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My teacher has worked with me to have a very flexible wrist, dropping and rising with the choreography of the movement of the music. It is never fixed, high or low. When I read the title "hold em up", followed by the discovery that a low wrist (i.e. not holding them up) cause improvement, this was my thought. No, it is not that a low wrist makes improvement. It is that "holding up" the wrist, or any fixed position requiring effort, takes away from your playing. So if you have released some of the tension that comes from holding up your wrist, and gotten into more movement and relaxing into the keys, this would improve your playing.
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My teacher has worked with me to have a very flexible wrist, dropping and rising with the choreography of the movement of the music. It is never fixed, high or low. I don't think that it is wrong for the wrist to ocasionally be below the level of the keys, and occasionally above the level. It should never be fixed, or held. It depends what you are doing. For me the average high is such that the heel of my hand just brushes the keys. 100% agree.
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Well, it's sort of like Goldilocks' porridge, has to be just right--neither too high nor too low, moving just as needed.
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I think Swiss's statement stands fine as it is. The reasons for moving are musical - 'as needed' comes across as rather parsimonious. In many parts of the world they only have one word for both music and dance.
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My teacher is always asking me to lower my wrists - and they somehow do get a little to high. I wonder if there's middle road, neither to high or to low. There is. The most important aspect of the wrist is that it is aligned with the hand/arm. Flexible/supple, yes; but aligned.
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My teacher is always asking me to lower my wrists - and they somehow do get a little to high. I wonder if there's middle road, neither to high or to low. There is. The most important aspect of the wrist is that it is aligned with the hand/arm. Flexible/supple, yes; but aligned. But if you try too hard to be aligned, then you end up being stiff. Also, what are the factors of that alignment. For example, if you sit too close then there isn't enough room, and something will bend. If you try to force the alignment, you get tension, so you have to get at the cause. The same for a high or low wrist (in general) - what is the height of your bench? Etc.
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Alignment doesn't take effort, it's what happens when the wrist and arm are in their most natural, neutral position. It takes tension to move things out of alignment.
In that sense I agree with those who don't like the word "hold" in relation to wrist height, as it's true you don't want to hold anything, just allow the wrist to move freely and naturally (and thus correctly).
As I understand it, it's side-to-side misalignment of the wrist that is most potentially harmful.
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