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Originally Posted by michaelh
I would only consider it it it came in pink and if they put the pianos next to a pink mini-Cooper instead of that tacky red Ferrari.


Agreed, 100%.

Does anybody else need any free marketing survey input around here?


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Well, at $40,000 wholesale, that is going to bump it into some heavy duty competition.

I guess it's put up or shut up time for the Chinese builders. It's an attempted drop kick into 'artist level.'

As to who is building it - My guess would be Hailun.


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Aha! The Chinese Industrial Complex!


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A good piano at the appropriate price will sell no matter where it's made. I've played some pretty decent Chinese pianos and pretty rubbish ones, but I still don't fall in love with the tone of any of them. That might change though, when I hear what they sound like.

The piano actions are good but often the soundboard is mounted incorrectly and certain things are pushed along to look right or sound almost right, and things suffer five years down the line. For me, the great European and American pianos have still not been surpassed in terms of sound - not even by the excellent Shigeru Kawai or Yamaha CF- wonderful pianos but not quite there yet for my ears- although I accept, many disagree.

For me, it's a bit like hearing a wonderful conservatory graduate playing- it can be very beautiful and certainly accomplished, and you feel it lacks nothing. Then you hear Vladimir Horowitz shape a phrase and you feel exhilarated.


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Originally Posted by Mark VC
Does anyone know what percentage of Pearl River's pianos are sold in China? Because part of this story is surely the huge popularity of the piano as an instrument there.

Total production by all piano makers in China was 380,000 in 2012, estimated to be 77% of the world's total output. Pearl River accounted for 129,000 of the total. Hailun has been anywhere from No. 5 to No. 7 over the last few years in terms of output, just north of 20,000 in 2012 - some of it was actually oursourced to other companies, as its production capacity was well below 20,000/year - 30% of its output was exported. Hailun just moved into a new factory last spring, once everything is up and running it is expected to reach a production capacity of 40,000/year.

Contrary to the misconception that pianos made in China are flooding the world market, the number of pianos exported reached its peak in 2005 and has been declining ever since. In 2005, 120,000 pianos were exported; in 2012, only 50,000 were shipped overseas (43,000 uprights and 7,000 grands), while 106,800 pianos were imported. For the first six months of 2013, total number of pianos exported declined further to 18,372 (15,323 uprights, 3,049 grands), the decline is particularly sharp for uprights (nearly 30% compared to the first six months of 2012).

The reality is that China is not only the largest market for new pianos today, but quite possibly the only growing one as well. It's a net importer, and buys up most pianos produced by the rest of the world.

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