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#2177292 - 11/05/13 01:08 AM 1989 Baldwin R Lid Question  
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Back again with a question I have on a 1989 Baldwin R I am looking to purchase. My apologies in advance if I should have just continued with my previous thread.

Tough to describe but I'll try. Under further inspection I noticed that there is a flaw in the piano lid. The best I can describe it is if you have the lid closed, on the top of the lid towards the narrowest point of the piano (above where the base hitch pins would be if you could look through the closed lid) there is a very slight "line" in the finish which runs perpendicular to the longest part of the piano. The "line" does not go totally across the lid but about 3-4 inches in from each side. In other words, parallel to the keyboard about a foot from the end of the piano. As an example it is similar to when you mask off an area to paint, once you remove the tape used to mask the area there is a slight rise in the second coat of paint compared to the first coat. Not saying this is what happened but just using as an example. Could the mark possible be from a strap used in moving the piano?

- Is this something to be concerned with?
- Any idea how this happened?
- Given the piano is in excellent condition both "musically", as well as, cabinet finish (except for the issue mentioned above), your thoughts?
- The flaw is barely noticeable in the store and would be even less noticeable with how the piano will be placed in my home.


Thanks again to all.

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#2177362 - 11/05/13 06:51 AM Re: 1989 Baldwin R Lid Question [Re: Minicoop]  
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Don't know what would cause it, but it sounds like an insignificant flaw if all else is good.


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#2177371 - 11/05/13 07:31 AM Re: 1989 Baldwin R Lid Question [Re: Minicoop]  
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Could be either in the veneer or veneer + core. More than likely, the latter. Since changing out the lid is probably not a viable option, a repair specialist will need to evaluate. Concern would be that splits usually get worse.


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#2177399 - 11/05/13 08:20 AM Re: 1989 Baldwin R Lid Question [Re: bkw58]  
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Originally Posted by bkw58
Could be either in the veneer or veneer + core. More than likely, the latter. Since changing out the lid is probably not a viable option, a repair specialist will need to evaluate. Concern would be that splits usually get worse.


This is your answer. Thank you Bob!


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#2177426 - 11/05/13 09:39 AM Re: 1989 Baldwin R Lid Question [Re: Minicoop]  
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Yes, I was also thinking the seam between pieces of veneer. Maybe poorly finished, or perhaps a split developing/worsening between two pieces.


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#2177455 - 11/05/13 10:31 AM Re: 1989 Baldwin R Lid Question [Re: Minicoop]  
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This is not going to affect the tone or touch of the piano, but it does affect your mindset and preception of the piano... and, may be grounds for further price negotiations. Ever heard of a scratch and dent sale? smile

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#2177626 - 11/05/13 04:06 PM Re: 1989 Baldwin R Lid Question [Re: Minicoop]  
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Thank you all for your quick responses. After having a specialist look at it he determined that there was only a separation in the two joined pieces of veneer (more common than one would think), there was no structural damage to the lid (which would not at all be likely given the construction of the lid), and that it probably would not get any worse. Everything being considered, I believe I am getting the piano I have been searching for, for a very reasonable price.

Once again, thanks to all!!

#2177697 - 11/05/13 06:37 PM Re: 1989 Baldwin R Lid Question [Re: Minicoop]  
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Originally Posted by Minicoop
Thank you all for your quick responses. After having a specialist look at it he determined that there was only a separation in the two joined pieces of veneer (more common than one would think), there was no structural damage to the lid (which would not at all be likely given the construction of the lid), and that it probably would not get any worse. Everything being considered, I believe I am getting the piano I have been searching for, for a very reasonable price.

Once again, thanks to all!!


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