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Hello,

Has anyone ever tried the piano for all method? Does it teach you how to play piano by ear? Is it only learning how to play in the key of "C"?

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I have only tried the course for a couple of days, but I will absolutely recommend it, especially for beginners, but also for more advanced beginners. It does not especially teach you to play by ear, but it can be useful for that. I have not checked, but i am pretty sure you learn to play in all keys.
Piano For All can teach you to play in any and all the styles you want, just pick and choose. Everything is explained very clearly and in great detail. That should be very useful also for people who are at a very advanced level in one style of music, and want to learn something new.
My own weakest point is reading music (just love improvisation), and that has improved considerably in just two days.

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Hello cubop,

You just got the course? Thanks for the information. I plan on ordering this program; and it is a good price for much information.

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Yes, I got the course, and for the price its a steal. Good luck.

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I'm pretty sure the course has music in all keys and isn't aimed just a the key of C. Worth trying out as playing by ear is a good method to learn too.

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You mean there are other keys than C...? laugh

Just kidding...

My favorite "by-ear" key is F. It matches my singing voice pretty well. I'm learning to play in all the keys, but there are certain keys that I'm more familiar with. All the different keys have similarities as far as music theory is concerned.

Happy playing!

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I am going to go ahead and order pianoforall. I emailed Robin Hall, creator of the piano method, and he responded that I should be able to achieve what I want to do - play piano by ear in time. He mentioned by the last book you get into more keys with scale and arpeggio practice.

Rickster,

yes, I like the key of "F" too for singing. I know there are certain common keys that people play for singing; but I am not sure which keys. I am very sure that the key of "C" is one.

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Hello Ina,

No, we are just expressing our views. I just ordered the pianoforall program yesterday. I looked over it today; and it contains alot of information on different ways to play patterns in every style.

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Any up dates on people who used and stayed with this program?

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Hi Mark,

I just came across this by accident. I'm a beginner and this sounds too good to be true. I am 60 yrs of age and trying to teach myself.
Would you be kind enough to keep me posted on this course ? I would love to hear about peoples experience with this product.
I am currently waiting for the new version of the piano and keyboard method by eMedia.

Any advice is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Vince R
Hi Mark,

I just came across this by accident. I'm a beginner and this sounds too good to be true. I am 60 yrs of age and trying to teach myself.
Would you be kind enough to keep me posted on this course ? I would love to hear about peoples experience with this product.
I am currently waiting for the new version of the piano and keyboard method by eMedia.

Any advice is appreciated.

Vincent


I currently do not use this program. It seems to a good one and very inexpensive. I brought this up to see if anyone did this program and actually stayed with it, as well as the overall results.

We always hear about these "great" programs, but very seldom see people who complete them...

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"Piano For All" is a real bargain.

I purchased it many years ago and picked up many tips and tricks from it.

Sadly after we moved a while back, I can no longer find the CD to reinstall. (Robin ... you listening)

Just go to the website and watch the video, to get a taste of what's covered in the course.

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Just contact Robin (dannac.) I've contacted him a few times and he has always replied quickly. Once because I found out I had forgotten to download one of the books. He gave me a link so I could download any book, video and mp3 file of the course.

http://pianoforall.com/contact-us/

The program is quite good. It gives an insight into how the various rhythms and chord progressions are used in popular music.


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It sounds awesome. When I sit down and try to learn a piece it
takes me days and weeks of playing the same piece day after day.

Please tell me how it works. Do you have to sit at a piano to do it or do you do everything on the computer and it stays in you brain when you sit at the piano. Please explain.

When you say it can teach you to play in any and all styles. What are you referring to as styles. Can you name some styles because I don't know what you mean because I am a beginner.

How does the program teach you to read music. I only know to put a piece of music on the piano and play and read the music many hundreds of times. HOw does it work so quickly.

The only way I know to do improvisation is to learn all the keys, all the chords which is taking me many years as a beginner. Do you even need a piano and use just a laptop. Help me as a beginner. Thanks.




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Michael_99, I'm no different than you in that it has taken me weeks, sometimes months, to learn the very few pieces I've learned and I even forget them more quickly. I'm a beginner as well.

This particular program offers no magic tricks. All Piano For All (PFA) does, is explain how to play rhythms and progressions, common to many songs. Beware that there is absolutely no sheet music given, since that would make the package more expensive, as royalties would have to be paid to the concerning artists. Still, for every rhythm covered there is a long list of songs to which that rhythm does apply, along with chord changes.

The rhythms or progressions aren't always used in the real songs in the exact way they're covered in the program, but it can give you ideas on how to improvise. In my opinion by going through the program, you can improve your musical ear, even though PFA is not publizised as an ear training course. You might even get the same information for free elsewhere, but that always takes time and time is usually money.

The best practice is always playing the piano (not the laptop) but you can use your laptop to play instruction videos or use some training software. PFA does not replace hard work, but can help you organize your practice time more efficiently.


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A few examples of rhythms. The 1st major, 6th minor, 4th major and 5th major of any scale. Called Doo-wop progression. In the key of C major, C-Aminor-F-G. Try it out, should sound familiar.

Split chord. Play the top two notes together and in the next beat the bottom note. Most famous example is John's Lennon's Imagine, C - Cmaj7 - F - C progression. Actually Let It Be also uses split chords, at least some versions.

Bossa Nova Bounce. Hard to explain - Google! Song examples, The Girl From Ipanema, Daniel (Elton John), Baker Street and Fly Me To The Moon.


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You got me interested... Learning patterns and chord progressions and rhythms is certainly a good way to learn most genres of piano music. I see there is even a book on classical music, well that seems a bit too much but surely there are useful skills to be learned here too?

It's a shame it asks for taxes because I am in the EU. I've never paid VAT on digital downloads.

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I sent Robin a message telling him of these discussions and possibly he'll comment. The classical book contains notes for many of the popular classical pieces like Für Elise An der schönen blauen Donau, Jesu bleibt meine Freude and so on. Not the full versions though, usually simplified.

You can always buy the course digitally, sinophilia. I'm in Iceland (not in EU, but in EEA - European Economic Area) and it was no problem.


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Ina,

For most of us we sit down at a piano, place a book on the stand and play. It is that simple. It is that easy. It just takes sitting at a piano to do it. Some people think there is another way to do it. Bach, Lange Lange, Chopin all had to do it that way. Billions of piano players do it that way, but there is no harm that others might think there is another way that is faster, easier to play the piano - not at a piano - but on a laptop. If it works we will read about it in the news that someone who never sat at a piano learned to play the piano. That would be news!

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