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#2635343 - 04/22/17 10:50 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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Yamaha YDP S51 is an old model. But the changes made to YDP-52 are not huge. Same with DGX-650. There's now a DGX-660.

The DGX-6x0 is the more versatile device obviously, but the YDP-5x is better (more realistic) if the focus is on just plain piano playing.

And of course the Roland FP-30 and Kawai ES-110 (and the older ES-100) must be mentioned in this context. And maybe the Casio Privias.

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#2635344 - 04/22/17 10:51 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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I've been to music stores for my choice of Yamaha P-115, Roland FP-30 or a Kawai ES110. Of the three digital pianos, I learned the Yamaha P-115 is the oldest model that came out in the middle of 2015. Digital pianos are like electronic gadgets (cellphones, tablets, notebooks, desktop PCs, etc.) with new improved models coming in now and then. Is it not sensible to have a newer model than an old one?

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#2635347 - 04/22/17 10:54 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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The ydp s51 has a more powerful sound system and much better keyboard (gh) than the dgx 650 (ghs). But the dgx has much more sounds and features for the arranger or composer, or if you want to play with lots of different lead sounds and accompaniments.

If you want to learn piano, especially classical or jazz piano, the ydp is the much better option.

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#2635362 - 04/22/17 11:36 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: genghis khan]  
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Originally Posted by genghis khan
I've been to music stores for my choice of Yamaha P-115, Roland FP-30 or a Kawai ES110. Of the three digital pianos, I learned the Yamaha P-115 is the oldest model that came out in the middle of 2015. Digital pianos are like electronic gadgets (cellphones, tablets, notebooks, desktop PCs, etc.) with new improved models coming in now and then. Is it not sensible to have a newer model than an old one?


2015 is not old. Any disadvantages of the P-115 (its action, its use of stretched samples, etc.) isn't due to age or progression of the technology.

But generally, you're correct--DPs are more like computers (they actually are, of course) than they are like antiques. After 6-7 years, there are clear advances in technology that make the older generations largely obsolete (even if they sound mostly fine).


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#2635588 - 04/23/17 07:15 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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Thank you all for help, I think I will buy s51 smile

#2637688 - 04/29/17 01:55 PM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: genghis khan]  
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Originally Posted by genghis khan
I've been to music stores for my choice of Yamaha P-115, Roland FP-30 or a Kawai ES110. Of the three digital pianos, I learned the Yamaha P-115 is the oldest model that came out in the middle of 2015. Digital pianos are like electronic gadgets (cellphones, tablets, notebooks, desktop PCs, etc.) with new improved models coming in now and then. Is it not sensible to have a newer model than an old one?


Depends on the price. I paid £400 for a new P115 with a 5 year warranty. At that price there was no justification to pay extra for something newer, which it doesn't mean "better", and of those models only the ES110 is significantly more recent. There is also a bigger risk when you buy something that has just come out and it's not as well tested.

If you're a beginner they will all vastly exceed your capabilities for a long long time.


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#2637891 - 04/30/17 04:47 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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Almost 20 years ago I bought a Roland HP 137 R, because I needed to use a headphone and I didn't want to pay more than 1,000 dollars. It has never let me down and I used this digital piano to write more than 500 compositions. If I need a new piano, it's going to be a cheap Roland again.


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#2659537 - 07/07/17 05:23 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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Hi,

As a newbee on this forum I want ask you Daniel, Can you please add data about new Kawai ES110 - at least known informations. I am standing before important decision to buy new DP :-)
Btw. Roland Fp-30 does have 3 sensors instead of 2. There is "little escapement" also as a third sensor.

Thanks a lot for your effort!

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#2663844 - 07/25/17 10:44 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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Decisions... always the same problem with music instruments. On bass I had quite clear I wanted a Rickenbacker, got one after 2 years of play and a few gigs on my back. But here... as a complete beginner, I have lots of trouble to decide.

Comes down to Roland FP-30 vs Yamaha-DGX 660. On the one hand, my heart pulls me towards the Roland FP-30, as it is the more 'realistic' piano of them 2, both in sound and in feel. And my main playing will be classical music, at home. But... I do play in a rock band, and my brain is saying that once I am at a decent level to play that on gigs in 1-2 years (best way I've found to get the urge to get better fast and practice harder), the bells and whistles of the Yamaha-DGX 660 would surely be more useful, also for recording and composing. Of course, it would be played mainly for intros, etc, as bass IS my main instrument, at least for now, and I'm not sure I will ever be able to change between those two instruments like Geddy Lee or similar players do.

Well, still some time to decide.

#2663877 - 07/25/17 02:32 PM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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Ok, actually, not so much time. Today I tried to revive my Yamaha PSR500... and, it died. It had 5 dead keys, D4,E4 area, so I opened it, removed the dust, still the same, opened the board, etc. as I found in an article on internet and when I put it all back, it was like 5 keys alive (it's an exaggeration, but it was much worse than before. I should have known when I saw that they already had tried to fix it, and also I'm a clumsy brute).

Lets see if next month I can buy one of those 2... or else, get a cheap 98€ Yamaha PSR-F51. And then in 3-4 months, when I get the other one, give it to a friend with kids.

So what's would you people recommend...
a) PSR-F51 now, in 3-4 months
... a1) Yamaha DGX600, as for recording, rock play in a stage, etc seems better
... a2) Follow your heart, always... Roland FP-30!!!

b) Wait one month, fool around with the pad and keep learning sight reading, get ...
... b1) Yamaha DGX600, as for recording, rock play in a stage, etc seems better
... b2) Follow your heart, always... Roland FP-30!!!

c) FP30 or DGX600? Are you crazy? For your needs, the XXX - YYNN is much better!! (in that price range)

#2669770 - 08/22/17 07:30 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Bruce Humphrey]  
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Originally Posted by Daniel Richter

Roland FP-30
Summary: In my opinion the key action is better than the Casio and Yamaha, but still not as good and silent as the Kawai.

Has he ever tried FP-30? I played Kawai KDP-90 with AHAIV F of ES-100 and had ES-110 for two weeks. Roland FP-30 is almost inaudible in comparison with the loud key noise of Kawai. Speaking of key action I'd say that they are pretty much similar. Though, first couple of days I had to set -1 key touch setting on FP-30 to adapt after ES-110.

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#2671201 - 08/28/17 10:25 PM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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Any opinion on roland rp-501r?
Its in the same range with yamaha ydp163

#2671969 - 09/01/17 01:47 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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I settled with the ES110 as it's around $100 cheaper here in Australia. Very happy with it so far.

#2683771 - 10/21/17 06:10 AM Re: Comparison of Portable Digital Pianos under 1000 US$ [Re: Daniel Richter]  
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I couldn't decide between the Yamaha P-115, Kawai ES110 and the Roland FP-30. But visiting a store helped a lot. The ES110 and the FP-30 feel much better than the Yamaha with its GHS action. In terms of sound, the Kawai ES110 sounded the closest to a real thing, plus it allows to adjust various parameters of the piano sound, which isn't available on the P-115/ FP-30. The FP-30 has a very rich, bright sound but the ES110 sounded more natural to my ears. As for the P115' piano tone... well, nothing wrong with it but I liked it the least among the three.

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