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#2161593 - 10/04/13 06:10 AM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Sumsar]  
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I bought our very first piano Kawai CL-36 White 2 weeks ago. Well, my story goes ....
My wife & I wanted to have a piano for a long time. I had no experience with any instrument before but she did.
We were thinking to play or practice together. And we do love classic piano sound.
I had been look for it past few months. Roland F-120 or Yamaha P-105 were my first choice, but local shop don't have it. Lucky, there was Japan Trade Fair at my city (I'm in Yangon, Myanmar[Burma]), the lovely appearance of CL-36 attract our eye, which placed behind the Baby Grand (I forgot the model). We did some research about CL-36 on the internet, on this forum, Sumsar review & a friend who is music composer help me to buy it. My very first sight of CL-36 is the compact size, secondly it's weighted with Iovy touch full 88keys, finally it's only worthy 5 times of my monthly income. We are really please with what we did. I had never felt such a very happy day in my life before. The only compliment from my wife is that she felt it like upright string piano she experienced. And she pleased with it.

Sumsar review about key-noise about CL-36 is real, but we can bear with it, using headphone or 70% volume.

I will upgrade my CL-36, may be after few years later.
I will be expecting something that is a digital piano which will feature
1.. compact size (ideal one is CL-36)
2.. touch feel of concert grand (Ideal for now is Kawai EX)
3.. sound of concert grand (Ideal for now is Kawai EX)
4.. 3 Pedal support
5.. Headphone support or better speaker (like BOSE)

Key-cover, MIDI, USB, many voices, sound effects or many others functions are not important for me.
My ideal is more like ... a compact size Concert Grand Digital Piano with a single voice & touch of itself is enough for me.

Thank you, Sumsar & pianoworld.com

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#2161600 - 10/04/13 06:25 AM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Sumsar]  
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Thank you ToeNi!

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#2161628 - 10/04/13 08:07 AM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Sumsar]  
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I don't see any problem with key noise. I find mine extremely quiet? For the price-point I still think it should come with a built-in hard key cover.

Enjoy it! I still love mine smile


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#2162127 - 10/05/13 12:52 PM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Sumsar]  
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A friend of mine compliment about how I chose the Kawai CL-36.
He stated like this "You bought a piano with touch & sound of it, not the look of it."
I reply "Exactly, but you can feel the full concert grand if you closed your eye."



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#2162145 - 10/05/13 01:44 PM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Sumsar]  
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I've been playing my MP6 mostly with the default grand piano sound and I love the keyboard and the sound of it. Yeah, could be better of course. But digital pianos can always be better. What I miss is speakers for the rare moments when I have guests and I need to play for them. I miss triple sensors for some rare pieces where I play fast repetitions. I miss a simplistic and compact IKEA-style white cabinet to match my interior. CL36 is the perfect candidate. I guess an eventual CL37 with RH2 and slightly better fidelity sampleset would be something to made me wanna buy it smile James? wink


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#2166660 - 10/15/13 12:53 PM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: CyberGene]  
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How about this CL-46 with Grand Feel?
I'm gonna buy it even without
No Concert Magic, No Lesson,
No Metronome, No Sound Select.

#2166845 - 10/15/13 08:35 PM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Sumsar]  
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Nice idea, but I think the Grand Feel action is rather too big for a 'compact' instrument (CL = Compact Line).

Cheers,
James
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#2166988 - 10/16/13 03:55 AM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: HDur]  
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Originally Posted by HDur
Hi, I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas on which headphones are suitable (without needing an Amp.) for the CL-36. Or perhaps someone can give some info on suitable headphone specs.? I've read in another forum that 32 or 40 Ohm headphones don't work well. Would 50 or 55 Ohm be ok? I am totally clueless about headphones and the such.. It would really help if anyone can provide some info.. smile


I had the same problem with AKG 701 (low level of volume) then I replaced them with Sehnnheiser HD 598 and the Kawai MP6 sounds great. Before that, I had AKG k520 and it produced a very good, linear sound with the nice bass.

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#2167085 - 10/16/13 09:26 AM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Kawai James]  
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Nice idea, but I think the Grand Feel action is rather too big for a 'compact' instrument (CL = Compact Line).


Dude, yet another Kawai acronym that actually means something. I guess every letter pair that comes from Kawai has a hidden meaning. There should be a dictionary for this stuff.

That makes me wonder if things like CLP and YDP mean something on the Yamaha side.

#2167390 - 10/16/13 07:39 PM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Sumsar]  
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I expect CLP is probably an acronym for "CLavinova Piano" and YDP "Yamaha Digital Piano".

Cheers,
James
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#2170062 - 10/22/13 01:05 PM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Kawai James]  
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What could be the size of a digital piano with Grand Feel?
I found CA65 and CS7 had Grand Feel (nowhere near cheaper yet) and bulky.
But both have plenty of functions, ... which I don't feel worthy enough.

Cheers,
ToeNi

#2170155 - 10/22/13 04:17 PM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: ToeNi]  
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From Kawaius.com website, Kawai CA65, has the following dimensions:
1440 (W) x 470 (D) x 905 (H) mm
57” (W) x 19” (D) x 36” (H)m
of which the limiting one is depth, I think.
Those dimensions are not so far from VPC1's:
138 (W) x 42.5 (D) x 18.5 (H) cm
54 ⅓" (W) x 16 ¾" (D) x 7 ⅓" (H)
Weight: 29.5 kg / 65 lbs.
(http://www.kawaivpc.com)
By the way, MP10 is about the same size:
1380 (W) x 428 (D) x 185 (H) mm
54 3⁄8 (W) x 16 7⁄8 (D) x 7 ¼ (H) inch
weight: 31.8 kg (70.1 lbs)
(http://www.kawaius.com)
So a portable with GF could be a bit bigger (and a lot heavier ? :O)
Anyway they state in kawaivpc.com :"The 'Grand Feel' (GF) keyboard action is currently reserved for Kawai's flagship 'Concert Artist' digital piano instruments", so perhaps they don't want to build something with GF and less functions...

#2191185 - 12/02/13 01:34 AM Re: A little review of a very efficient DP: Kawai CL36 [Re: Sumsar]  
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Congrats on your new piano, I'm wondering how it is still holding up for you. Maybe a follow-up review on it would be good. I'm curious to see if you have any pros and cons for it.

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