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#2165308 - 10/12/13 02:52 PM Yamaha CLP 430 or Kawai CN34
pianomom5 Offline
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Registered: 10/01/13
Posts: 7
I am going between two stores right now and need to know asap which one is better??? Best action is the top priority and I am not a piano player. This is for my children who hqve been playing about 4 years. Thanks in advance!

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#2165341 - 10/12/13 04:19 PM Re: Yamaha CLP 430 or Kawai CN34 [Re: pianomom5]
gvfarns Offline
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Registered: 04/16/07
Posts: 3510
Loc: Texas
There's no consensus on which is better. They have two different actions, both very good. Some people prefer one and some the other. You will have to give them both a try and decide which one you prefer (also report your impressions back to us when you can).

I'm not even sure I could tell you which I would get if I those were my two options and there was no cost difference. I guess if you put a gun to my head, the Kawai. I'm partial to some characteristics of their action(s).


Edited by gvfarns (10/12/13 04:23 PM)

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#2165382 - 10/12/13 06:25 PM Re: Yamaha CLP 430 or Kawai CN34 [Re: pianomom5]
Wuffski Offline
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Registered: 08/28/12
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Loc: Europe (Northern Spain)
If you can somehow make it possible, go for the CPL 440 instead of the 430, the extra money will really be worth the difference!! I first was between the CPL 430 and a Roland HP 503, and my winner was Roland, just based on sound taste, nothing about special features or key advantages. Then I got hands on the 440 and have had to rethink my decision seriously. The 440 felt really mature in comparion to the 430. Well I finally went even with a HP-505, but still remember about the 440 being so much better than the 430, that I will always post this recommendation in a thread like this.
Wish you all the best!
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#2167910 - 10/17/13 11:32 PM Re: Yamaha CLP 430 or Kawai CN34 [Re: pianomom5]
Daniel Corban Offline
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Registered: 05/17/13
Posts: 215
Loc: Canada
I concur. For an extra $500-700, you can get the CLP440. The extra sound engine features and physical amp/speaker setup, it is well worth the money.
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#2167911 - 10/17/13 11:34 PM Re: Yamaha CLP 430 or Kawai CN34 [Re: pianomom5]
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Marco: Don't the CLP430 and CLP440 have the same keyboard? If so, in what way did they feel different.
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#2167993 - 10/18/13 05:58 AM Re: Yamaha CLP 430 or Kawai CN34 [Re: pianomom5]
Wuffski Offline
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Registered: 08/28/12
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I didn´t look up any specifications an the Yamaha site. I remember clearly, that the CLP430 to me felt a kind of whobbly, less precise in its direction of how keys went down and up, giving me the feeling as if they would have too much clearance to slightly move also to the left and the right on their way, or coming up again at different speeds. All over it seemed to me (that time a newbie to the piano), that the keys are not the same in place under my fingers after having pressed them down before and thus I felt uncomfortable with them.

The HP503 felt much more precise, but somehow too light.
Then the CPL440 felt precise and mature to my fingers, I actually preffered its feeling not only over the 430 and HP503, but also over the nice HP505 and the heavier Kawai CA keys.

My decision for purchasing the HP505 instead of going with a CPL440 was because of ROLAND sound and responsiveness, which I prefer, not because of the keys. Kawai never convinced me, the sound is much too bright and brut for me, and the keys are quite heavy like on an acoustic upright but not at all easy going like on a grand. As in the DP forum there has been so much hype about the new CAs, I took the chance to once more testplay a CA65 thouroughly (unfortunately haven´t got access to a CA95 by now). I just can´t prais it like others do.

My DP dream choice would at the moment be a HP507 with the keybed replaced by the one of a CLP470. The CLP470 keys to me feel just to be the best of all keys around (don´t ask me how this could be based on technical differences between the keys of the 440 and 470 (according to the specs I think there should not be any differences); it is just my conviction after test playing and comparing many models for many hours side by side), and the 507 just sounds and responds best to _my_ ears. But the price for the 470 and the 507 are so high, that I usually recommend to gor for a CLP440 or HP505, because of price/quality relationship, and the feasability of these models to serve for many years as a long term acceptable DP in house. I am very happy with my HP505. It has some sad drawbacks which I commented about in the past, especially the bad metronome implementation, but pianowise I progress very well on it with my playing, much enjoy to touch it, and still after 15 month am amazed about its singing, warm sound filling our living room.
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