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#2164954 - 10/11/13 05:07 PM silent piano  
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I know very little about silent pianos only what I have read up online. What is the point of them? Why would you want a piano that can be made silent? The whole point of a piano is so you can hear what you play.

I have looked on youtube and someone was demonstrating a silent piano and it is a cross between a digital and an accoustic where you silence the hammers and plug in headphones then it becomes digital and then when you take out the headphones and turn off the silencer it reverts into an accoustic again. I think for my next piano I might get one but even with my digital piano, I never use it with headphones because I live alone and there is noobody to disturb, but it was interesting to find out about silent pianos.

What will they dream up next???

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#2164975 - 10/11/13 05:53 PM Re: silent piano [Re: adultpianist]  
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The point of them is that people like me, who live in a one bedroom apartment can practice and study at night without getting bricks thrown at our heads the next morning by all our neighbours. smile

It's just a tool so you can play a REAL piano at off-hours (as most musicians often do).

Now... is it worth paying 1.5 K more than you would for the SAME piano with no silent system? Jury's still out on that one for me (though leaning towards a no).

#2165015 - 10/11/13 07:19 PM Re: silent piano [Re: upbeat]  
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I'll stick with my Yamaha digital as it is cheaper to maintain. Even with silent pianos, I would think they still need tuning which can be expensive. Mind you, you can still play them in the dark when the power goes off. Simply put some candles on the top and pretend you are Liberace lol. I never did really like him. He was a brilliant pianist but a bit too flamboyant for me.

#2165019 - 10/11/13 07:46 PM Re: silent piano [Re: adultpianist]  
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I have a silent piano and love it. But yes, of course it still needs tuning, as it is basically an acoustic. I am a night owl, so it is really great for me to be able to play at 3 am without waking up the whole neighborhood (I live in an apartment).



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#2165059 - 10/11/13 10:34 PM Re: silent piano [Re: ChopinAddict]  
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I too live in an apartment and have a digital. However the guy underneath me says he does not mind if I play in the evenings or during the day. I have headphones but unfortunately I do not use them because when I tried, he said he could not hear me play but he could feel the vibration through the floor so I cannot play late at night, except when he is out.


#2165134 - 10/12/13 02:50 AM Re: silent piano [Re: adultpianist]  
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I always play in acoustic mode during the day. I don't think my neighbours mind because they have never complained and I have noticed that they even keep the window open (I noticed when their phone rings for example). I don't really like that they keep their window open and hear everything, but I cannot tell them to close it!



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#2165289 - 10/12/13 01:57 PM Re: silent piano [Re: adultpianist]  
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Another thing is the action on a silent. With the Yamaha grand silent mechanism you (or I at least) can't detect any difference. So whether practising accoustic or silent it's all exactly the same.

And sometimes it's not just the sound volume but the repetition that drives neightbours and the rest of the family insane. When I'm learning something and am playing the same passage over and over again, I sometimes take pity on them and even during daylight hours switch over to silent.

And then there's transpose for when I can no longer sing along to the songs I used to in days gone by. And then there's silly things like playing a Procol Harum song and switching to Hammond organ for a section without getting up.

I do love playing a real piano and feeling the vibrations through the floorboards and the bench, but I don't regret the extra money to have the silent/digital option.


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#2165503 - 10/13/13 02:38 AM Re: silent piano [Re: de cajon]  
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Same here. I startet from Yamaha P-85, then Kawai MP6 then I began to think about Yamaha NU-1 or AG series, but definitely I needed a "real thing". After a very long search, I opted for W. Hoffmann V120 with the Vario system and I'm very happy with it. I don't play the MP6 anymore and I practice as much as I can on the acoustic. Still, when I use the Vario it is the same action and feel as in the acoustic (different sound though). It is costly but it does the trick (I will sell the MP6 anyway).

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#2165641 - 10/13/13 12:14 PM Re: silent piano [Re: adultpianist]  
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I too live in an apartment and the silent feature means I can play whenever I like.

It IS an acoustic and a digital - the best of both worlds.

I bought my used, in top notch condition and it wasn't very much more expensive than other second hand ordinary acoustics they had in the shop.

The few extra euros I spent have been more than worthwhile though. When I get home late, I can play, when I get up early I can play. I can even practice my scales and repetitions over and over and over without driving others nuts. I can record easily and even when the acoustic part isn't in tune.




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#2165642 - 10/13/13 12:23 PM Re: silent piano [Re: casinitaly]  
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Just picked up my portable 3 octave dummy practice keyboard (just like Liszt's) - watch out piano world! (or should I say silent Piano world?).

#2165850 - 10/14/13 12:41 AM Re: silent piano [Re: de cajon]  
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Originally Posted by de cajon
Another thing is the action on a silent. With the Yamaha grand silent mechanism you (or I at least) can't detect any difference. So whether practising accoustic or silent it's all exactly the same.



Maybe I am over sensitive, but it's completely different with my Yamaha upright and all the other silent uprights I have tried in stores.

So the pros of having a silent piano:
- I can practice whenever I want/need to (live in a flat and am seldom home at the hours when it's appropriate to play piano)
- I have a silent keyboard to use when I feel I need that kind of practice
- Cleaning the keys is less unpleasant smile

Cons:
- The action is different when playing silent
- The action is not really nice for me when not playing silent (either because the hammers are placed differently due to the silent bar or my piano action just sucks in general)
- I don't really care for the digital sound
- I need to be careful not to damage my hearing if I play a lot with the headphones.
- Too much headphone practicing is not good for my playing. Keeping the volume down for longer periods makes me sensitive to the loudness of the actual piano sound and I end up playing too reserved.

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#2165902 - 10/14/13 04:01 AM Re: silent piano [Re: outo]  
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... With the Yamaha grand silent mechanism you ... can't detect any difference...

Maybe I am over sensitive, but it's completely different with my Yamaha upright and all the other silent uprights I have tried in stores...

Yes, that's what I understand too. Upright Yamahas do have a different action when switching between accoustic and silent.


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#2165925 - 10/14/13 06:45 AM Re: silent piano [Re: de cajon]  
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Originally Posted by de cajon
... With the Yamaha grand silent mechanism you ... can't detect any difference...

Maybe I am over sensitive, but it's completely different with my Yamaha upright and all the other silent uprights I have tried in stores...

Yes, that's what I understand too. Upright Yamahas do have a different action when switching between accoustic and silent.


My plan is to get a grand, but I am drawn between keeping my silent upright also or getting a digital to supplement the grand (which does not appeal to me). If indeed the grand action is not bothered by the silent system as in uprights, I might actually consider a grand with that... I didn't like the smaller Yamaha grands at all, but I could consider a Kawai...


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