Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Fall 2017
Who's Online Now
116 registered members (Agent88, ajskfld576, 2Keys, Alex Hutor, 27 invisible), 1,908 guests, and 1 spider.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#2161153 - 10/03/13 10:20 AM Infra 3 -hands get tired  
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 104
kaanguner Offline
Full Member
kaanguner  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 104
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEbp4AetAJA

here is the tutorial for the piece. and the original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlO883dW9nw

I have just established the right hand part but it is very, very tiring. Could you give me any tips about this 'getting tired' issue? Or is there exercises which i can do daily to strengthen my fingers. And how is this piece for a begginer? Am i going ahead of myself with this? Thank you.

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#2161234 - 10/03/13 01:10 PM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]  
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,867
wouter79 Offline
4000 Post Club Member
wouter79  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,867
Welcome!

The piece is is moderately complex and the final tempo seems pretty fast. Both seem too much for a beginner.

What is tiring? Do you have small hands? Or are you pushing too hard on the tempo? Do you keep relaxed while playing?


[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]
#2161241 - 10/03/13 01:32 PM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]  
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
4evrBeginR Offline
1000 Post Club Member
4evrBeginR  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
California
You must learn to relax in between notes. Play very slow a single note per second, and consciously focus on relaxing between each note, then speed up without tensing up. If you find you are not able to relax at a certain tempo, slow down, focus and do it again. smile


Art is never finished, only abandoned. - da Vinci
#2161658 - 10/04/13 08:17 AM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]  
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 104
kaanguner Offline
Full Member
kaanguner  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 104
I'm trying your advice right now 4evrBeginR and it seems good. I think i could have slow down the tempo but since i go down by ear it's kind of hard.

Wouter79, since i can play the notes i'd like to for the whole song although it is on a slower tempo, like 120. Original piece should be around 160 right?

I don't know if i have slow hands. Just did an experiment i can ONLY TOUCH c3 > e4 and play c3 > d4 although my little finger which i play d4 sometimes press c3 too. This might happen because i don't do stretching and my keyboard, well i use a keyboard. It's not full-weighted like piano keys. So unwanted plays happen more often.

I have just started focusing consciously on my concentration and it seems to help. I think i was, as you asked, pushing too hard for the right tempo it builds up tension on my hands. Since i don't have any teacher i didn't the formula that is "play it right on the slowest tempo you can and then go up from it".

And I don't know the point of metronome. Could anyone help me? I have a software which clicks on bpm but i don't know how it works. For everyclick do i have to play the whole bar or only a note?

Aaaaannnd. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks to all of you.

(ad ) MusicNotes.com
sheet music search
#2161687 - 10/04/13 09:36 AM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]  
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,867
wouter79 Offline
4000 Post Club Member
wouter79  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,867
Yes this is one of the risks having no teacher. There are a lot of things that can go wrong and getting tense and pushing too hard on the tempo are a few of them. Even playing slow will not prevent you from developing bad habits; and playing well slow does not automatically to playing fast well either IMHO.

So I would recommend getting a teacher, particularly in the beginner stage.

For the metronome, every beat in the music is 1 click. And what is a 'beat' is determined by the time signature in your score. Usually there are more beats in each measure.



[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]
#2161988 - 10/05/13 02:54 AM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: kaanguner]  
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 525
PaperClip Offline
500 Post Club Member
PaperClip  Offline
500 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 525
Amsterdam, Holland
As soon you have played the right thumb, it should relax and dangle a little bit downwards. Sometimes I have the problem to keep the thumb stiff and up ready for the next hit, making the movement of the other fingers harder.


Chris

Playing since May 02 2009
#2162032 - 10/05/13 07:27 AM Re: Infra 3 -hands get tired [Re: PaperClip]  
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 104
kaanguner Offline
Full Member
kaanguner  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 104
I'll keep that in mind too. Thank you very much.


Moderated by  BB Player, casinitaly 

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World)
our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, Digital Piano Dolly, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping* on Jansen Artist Piano Benches, Cocoweb Piano Lamps, Hidrau Hydraulic Piano Benches
(*free shipping within contiguous U.S. only)
(ad)
Pearl River & Ritmuller
Pearl River Pianos
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq 6 Out now
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


New Topics - Multiple Forums
Digital Piano Recommendations
by One Fish Two Fish. 11/19/17 01:58 PM
Should I hear beating with my stretch?
by Beemer. 11/19/17 01:16 PM
A Safety Tip
by DavidWB. 11/19/17 01:05 PM
What to call the Inferior?
by WhoDwaldi. 11/19/17 12:48 PM
Need help with Schubert D784 Movement 1
by AviChak. 11/19/17 12:47 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics182,843
Posts2,672,934
Members89,159
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Check It Out!
There's a lot more to Piano World than just the forums.
Click Here to
Explore The Rest of Piano World!!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0