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Looking for reasonably-priced live keyboard w/ splits+layers
#2160949 10/02/13 06:10 PM
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Hi all,

My dad is looking for a new board and is looking to spend around $1k or less. Here is his criteria:

  • Decent pianos, strings (for layering with pianos), Hammond organs, DX7-like e-pianos, and electric bass guitars
  • Decent pianos, strings (for layering with pianos), Hammond organs, DX7-like e-pianos, and electric bass guitars
  • Ability to split the keyboard and select the split point
  • Ability to layer the keyboard while splitting and create a patch like this: piano/strings on top + bass on bottom, or dx7/strings on top + bass on bottom
  • 73+ keys
  • relatively light


I have a Nord Stage 2 which I love, and a NS2 73 is extremely close to this, but it's limited to 2 synth sounds at a time, so it can't do DX7 + strings with bass on the bottom. The closest I could do is put a B3 on the bottom, but that doesn't quite cut it.

Any other options out there for this price range? Used is acceptable as well. Thanks!

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steelphantom #2160950 10/02/13 06:17 PM
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I expect a Casio PX-5S will fit the bill, however I'm not absolutely sure it will support the split and layer simultaneously.

There's also the Kawai MP6, however this exceeds your budget.

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Kawai James #2160969 10/02/13 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
I expect a Casio PX-5S will fit the bill, however I'm not absolutely sure it will support the split and layer simultaneously.

There's also the Kawai MP6, however this exceeds your budget.

Kind regards,
James
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Thanks James! Yeah, the Kawai is a little out of the budget and also a little too heavy, but the PX-5S just might fit the bill. It looks awesome!

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steelphantom #2160972 10/02/13 07:45 PM
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Kurzweil SP4-7

edit: As for Kurz vs. Casio, the Casio is more flexible and has a much better piano action, but I'd say the Kurz generally has the better sounds, so that would be the trade-off between the two.

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steelphantom #2160977 10/02/13 07:56 PM
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Hi steelphantom,

Any of the Kurzweil PC series (when there's a X, it means 88 keys) : PC1 or PC1X (a bit more limited than the PC2/PC2X), PC2 or PC2X (still excellent performance controllers), or the newer series of PC3 but they could be above budget depending on luck on used market. The X ones are not light though, but they are solid machines on the road.

Also, if you can find a PC2/PC2X with optional "classic keys ROM", your dad would get a bunch of additional samples/instruments he might like : Hohner Clavinet/Pianet, Mellotron strings/choir/flute, ARP string ensemble, Yamaha CP-80, RMI piano, etc.

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FWIW --

I don't know if the Casio PX-350 has enough (or good-enough) electric-piano and organ voices for your dad.

But it _does_ support simultaneous split and layering -- one voice below the user-set split point, and two layered voices above it.

So a layer of piano and "string pad" (right hand), with a split to an electric bass (there are a few of them available) (left hand) is possible.

If I were choosing a piano for stage use (no built-in speakers), the PX5S would come before the PX-350. The PX5S sounds are more editable, and there's lots more "real-time control" available. Well worth the extra $200 or so.

. Charles

PS -- if he could spring for a Yamaha MOX8, I'll bet that does what he needs. The MOX6 (which fits the budget) doesn't have enough keys, and they're synth-action.

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Kawai James #2161017 10/02/13 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
I expect a Casio PX-5S will fit the bill, however I'm not absolutely sure it will support the split and layer simultaneously.


The PX-5S will split and layer simultaneously... Up to 14 separate sounds can be split and/or layered at once.

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steelphantom #2161022 10/02/13 11:14 PM
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Thanks for all the replies everyone. There are some neat boards out there I'll have to take a look at.

Will definitely take a look at some of the Kurzweil boards in addition to the Casios.

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Another big thumbs up for Casio's PX-5S...especially considering the OP's stated requirements and budget. It is a no brainer, really.

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Could the Korg Kross 88 fill the bill for your dad? I believe the higher-priced Krome allows simultaneous splits/layers but am unsure about the Kross. But price is right and Korgs are a lotta fun to play around with.


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