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Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: MrMagic] #1738782
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That's neat; I'm not sure I would have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out. It's called a tenor bridge. The smaller Charles Walter grand has one, and old pianos are occasionally redesigned to include one during the rebuilding process on pianos that need their scale design smoothed out.

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Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: beethoven986] #1738962
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Originally Posted by beethoven986
That's neat; I'm not sure I would have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out. It's called a tenor bridge. The smaller Charles Walter grand has one, and old pianos are occasionally redesigned to include one during the rebuilding process on pianos that need their scale design smoothed out.


Interesting, thanks for the additional info!


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1920 Mason & Risch Upright (actually my mother's)
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Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: MrMagic] #1758262
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I paid my piano another visit yesterday. This time it had been tuned the day before my visit and is settling in very nicely. New strings, bridge cap, reshaped hammers, but it still has that nice mellow old piano sound. Verrry nice!

It looks much nicer under the lid than outside, but that will come in time. Meanwhile, I'm just going to enjoy playing it!

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1928 Chas. M. Stieff 6'1" Grand. Major rebuild 2011
1920 Mason & Risch Upright (actually my mother's)
1971 Hammond R-100
Roland KR577
Roland VK-8M Tonewheel organ module
GigaStudio GS3 Ensemble (Bosendorfer & Estonia piano samples)
Roland E20, JV30 (retired)
An old concertina which I can't play
Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: MrMagic] #1758267
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Hello Mr Magic,

Hey you've got 99 posts on the wall,
Careful you don't fall grin

I love the look of the plate. Good for you in taking on this project. Best wishes in
the restoration work.

Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: MrMagic] #1758277
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Hi Mr Magic,
Any reason why you are not changing the hammers?


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Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: victor kam] #1758287
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Originally Posted by victor kam
Hi Mr Magic,
Any reason why you are not changing the hammers?


The hammers were in good shape as they had been replaced not too long ago.

There Dara, I'm safe now, I passed the 100 mark!

Yes, recycling this old piano has been a rewarding project, and I am very pleased with the results so far.


1928 Chas. M. Stieff 6'1" Grand. Major rebuild 2011
1920 Mason & Risch Upright (actually my mother's)
1971 Hammond R-100
Roland KR577
Roland VK-8M Tonewheel organ module
GigaStudio GS3 Ensemble (Bosendorfer & Estonia piano samples)
Roland E20, JV30 (retired)
An old concertina which I can't play
Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: MrMagic] #1758300
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Good on you for choosing to restore the piano! I think it looks positively wonderful so far, and am very glad you are enjoying it! I'm looking forward to see the outside finished.

Congrats on 100! grin Well done!!

Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: MrMagic] #1761102
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Wow, this topic and the photos bring back memories. Back in 1968 through 1971, I was music teacher at a Maryland state training school in Reisterstown, Md. The music room had a large Stieff grand. It was old, badly scratched and banged up, and of course, out of tune, but it was really solid. Even though it wasn't in tune, you could still hear the quality. It seemed to have been built to last through the wars.
I didn't know it was the same Stieff family that made the silver.


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Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: MrMagic] #2141116
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Hello, I recently acquired a Stieff upright. I tried searching on Blue Book and other sites, and can't seem to determine its age! help please! Also, there's a larger issue at hand (excuse the pun) ...

When I got it, I was looking for a piano to dismantle into art pieces around my home. However, once I brought it home I started to feel bad about taking it apart. The fact that my wife is from Baltimore also made me wonder if I should keep it intact for sentimental reasons. That having been said, I'm torn about its condition. The keys are all intact but very dirty. The wood cabinet would require extensive cleaning and possible refinishing, and could very likely have mold inside ... it used to belong to a school, and was sitting untouched in their basement for many decades (at least 50 years). The damper and una corda pedals work, and all the keys work, but it's badly out of tune.

After reading this thread, my understanding is I should probably dismantle and salvage as cool art instead of spending money on it. I guess I'm hoping you'll agree as I need some pushing to jump off this cliff ... it might sound silly but I'm really having issues cutting into this "diamond in the rough" for lack of a better phrase ...


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Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: NickGrooves] #2141162
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I used to live in Atlanta. What school kept a piano stored for 50 years?
I think most of the negative advice probably goes double for an upright. It'd be worth less than a grand. On the other hand, sentimental reasons aren't always rational (or bad).


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Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: MrMagic] #2141164
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P.S. I'm glad you resuscitated this old thread, 'cause I sometimes see Stieffs on Craigslist. I didn't realize they were such a quality instrument. Might be worth considering. :-)

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Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: Retsacnal] #2143833
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The school shut down about 50 years ago, purchased by a private family and turned into a home. The surrounding land was developed into homes as well, and now it's just another neighborhood. Anyway ... definitely worth less as an upright than if it were a grand ... but what I'm really trying to determine is the age. Any ideas? I was unable to find it on the blue book directory site.


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Re: What is Chas M. Stieff? [Re: MrMagic] #2158743
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I have a Stieff 1905 Upright Player, many years ago had totally restore the way it was made back in those early days, cost a lot $$$$$, but well worth it to me. Serial # 29611. Have photos of outside and inside. Hap

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