Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

Ad
Schumann's 4th Finger
Schumann's 4th Finger Enigma Resolved
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Modern Piano Moving
Modern Piano Moving
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2017
(ad)
Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restorations and sales
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Who's Online
72 registered (AZNpiano, AZ_Astro, Alux, AB99, 16 invisible), 1769 Guests and 7 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#2158165 - 09/26/13 06:03 PM Piano transcription of Rachmaninoff Second Symphony
Polyphonist Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/03/13
Posts: 9108
Loc: New York City
I have recently been attempting to create a transcription of this brilliant work; the last movement in particular. To my knowledge, none yet exists. My question is, do you think this will be feasible? Can it be made to work as a transcription? Do you have any experience transcribing orchestral works, and if so, which ones, and how did it turn out? I have my own hypotheses already, but I'd like to hear your opinion. smile

Here is an excerpt from my transcription:
_________________________
Regards,

Polyphonist

Top
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#2158309 - 09/26/13 10:46 PM Re: Piano transcription of Rachmaninoff Second Symphony [Re: Polyphonist]
Derulux Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/06/05
Posts: 5446
Loc: Philadelphia
Only thing I can really see is to watch out for large stretches. In m3, you have EGCG. That's a really big hand. You might consider cutting out one of the G's (preferably the top G), especially considering the other 3 G's played on that beat.

If the whole piece (or at least that whole section) includes triplets on nearly every beat, you could consider a different time signature.. but that's more cosmetic than anything else.

Otherwise, I think it looks fine. When do we get to hear a recording? smile
_________________________
Every day we are afforded a new chance. The problem with life is not that you run out of chances. In the end, what you run out of are days.

Top
#2158310 - 09/26/13 10:50 PM Re: Piano transcription of Rachmaninoff Second Symphony [Re: Derulux]
Polyphonist Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/03/13
Posts: 9108
Loc: New York City
Originally Posted By: Derulux
Only thing I can really see is to watch out for large stretches. In m3, you have EGCG. That's a really big hand. You might consider cutting out one of the G's (preferably the top G), especially considering the other 3 G's played on that beat.

If the whole piece (or at least that whole section) includes triplets on nearly every beat, you could consider a different time signature.. but that's more cosmetic than anything else.

Otherwise, I think it looks fine. When do we get to hear a recording? smile

I think you might be missing the fact that this is a transcription of a symphonic work, Derulux. I can't change Rachmaninoff's time signature. I am going to change the chord you mentioned to E-G#-C#-E instead, not because of the stretch really but because it works better harmonically (even though it's not quite as accurate with the score).
_________________________
Regards,

Polyphonist

Top
#2158329 - 09/26/13 11:29 PM Re: Piano transcription of Rachmaninoff Second Symphony [Re: Polyphonist]
Derulux Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/06/05
Posts: 5446
Loc: Philadelphia
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: Derulux
Only thing I can really see is to watch out for large stretches. In m3, you have EGCG. That's a really big hand. You might consider cutting out one of the G's (preferably the top G), especially considering the other 3 G's played on that beat.

If the whole piece (or at least that whole section) includes triplets on nearly every beat, you could consider a different time signature.. but that's more cosmetic than anything else.

Otherwise, I think it looks fine. When do we get to hear a recording? smile

I think you might be missing the fact that this is a transcription of a symphonic work, Derulux. I can't change Rachmaninoff's time signature. I am going to change the chord you mentioned to E-G#-C#-E instead, not because of the stretch really but because it works better harmonically (even though it's not quite as accurate with the score).

Yeah, I'm not as familiar with the "rules" of transcription. If you have to follow the time sig, then so be it.
_________________________
Every day we are afforded a new chance. The problem with life is not that you run out of chances. In the end, what you run out of are days.

Top
#2158331 - 09/26/13 11:38 PM Re: Piano transcription of Rachmaninoff Second Symphony [Re: Derulux]
Polyphonist Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/03/13
Posts: 9108
Loc: New York City
Originally Posted By: Derulux
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: Derulux
Only thing I can really see is to watch out for large stretches. In m3, you have EGCG. That's a really big hand. You might consider cutting out one of the G's (preferably the top G), especially considering the other 3 G's played on that beat.

If the whole piece (or at least that whole section) includes triplets on nearly every beat, you could consider a different time signature.. but that's more cosmetic than anything else.

Otherwise, I think it looks fine. When do we get to hear a recording? smile

I think you might be missing the fact that this is a transcription of a symphonic work, Derulux. I can't change Rachmaninoff's time signature. I am going to change the chord you mentioned to E-G#-C#-E instead, not because of the stretch really but because it works better harmonically (even though it's not quite as accurate with the score).

Yeah, I'm not as familiar with the "rules" of transcription. If you have to follow the time sig, then so be it.

Well, I agree it is a bit inconvenient to have to keep pressing Ctrl-3 (create a triplet) endlessly, but the rhythm changes a few minutes into the movement and becomes quarter note triplets instead. So I have to stick to the 2/2 time signature, much as I'd like to switch between 12/8 and 6/4. laugh
_________________________
Regards,

Polyphonist

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
What's Hot!!
New Forums Location & New Piano World Site
---------------------
Why Do You Play The Piano?
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


(ad)
Sweetwater Hiring Keyboard Player!
Sweetwater Hiring Keyboard Player
(ad)
Pianoteq
Grotrian Concert
Royal
for Pianoteq out now
(ad)
A. Geyer Pianos
A. Geyer Pianos
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.

Piano Wire Music Wire Piano Strings


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Steigerman baby grand with piano disc player
by Lorianna203
Yesterday at 10:43 PM
Found a George Steck baby grand with 1779 stamped on the leg
by Lorianna203
Yesterday at 10:08 PM
Would you buy this Hobart Cable baby grand?
by Lorianna203
Yesterday at 09:51 PM
The Graded Rameau
by kaziranga
Yesterday at 09:32 PM
Thinking of buying this baby grand
by itsmeunc
Yesterday at 08:51 PM
(ad)
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Forum Stats
87,493 Registered Members
44 Forums
179,168 Topics
2,618,619 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission