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#2259267 - 04/09/14 05:32 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Thank you Knotty and Mark.

Knotty
For your F maj one, did you manage to find a recording to play along with ? I'm having trouble finding one.
Anyway you played it so nicely, this might be the one I do next.

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#2259911 - 04/10/14 05:18 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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I'm going to play one, I think, but there are so many I can't pick. Any suggestions? laugh


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#2259987 - 04/10/14 08:50 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Hey Poly,

Of the handful I played, I would say I liked Freuet Euch, ihr Christen best.

I just started on Aus Tiefer Noth... and that sounds really cool also. However I think some of those are meant to be played in a larger context. This latter one (#10) ends on the dominant chord and really feels like it needs to resolve.

#2260025 - 04/10/14 09:54 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: knotty]  
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Originally Posted by knotty
Hey Poly,

Of the handful I played, I would say I liked Freuet Euch, ihr Christen best.

Will do that one.


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#2260303 - 04/11/14 02:33 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Here we are. #8 - Freuet euch, ihr Christen.

http://picosong.com/eUEn/


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#2260323 - 04/11/14 03:09 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Bonus - #170, Nun komm der Heiden Heiland.

http://picosong.com/eU8h/


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#2260338 - 04/11/14 03:59 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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That's very impressive

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Originally Posted by knotty
That's very impressive


Sure is.
Nicely voiced and good tempo.
Are you using the pedal ?

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Originally Posted by custard apple
Originally Posted by knotty
That's very impressive

Sure is.
Nicely voiced and good tempo.
Are you using the pedal ?

Yes, I'm using a bit of pedal.


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#2260599 - 04/12/14 07:01 AM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Hi Poly,
Any advice on how to read or approach the chorales would be very welcome.

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I assume the goal is to be able to sight-read the chorale at tempo. To develop reading skills, read just two voices at a time. If that is not feasible, one voice at a time. If that is not feasible, pick a simpler chorale and play single voices from that. The important thing is that you read at tempo.

Gradually you develop your skills until you can read the chorale in its entirety.


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#2260761 - 04/12/14 04:27 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Hi poly,
Thanks for the advice. What do you mean by at tempo. Do you mean steady but any speed or so you mean performance tempo?
I can read soprano plus alto relatively easy. The left hand is holding me back.

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Originally Posted by knotty
What do you mean by at tempo. Do you mean steady but any speed or so you mean performance tempo?

I mean performance tempo.


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#2262942 - 04/17/14 05:31 AM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Hi CATS
I've just started learning Michel Legrand's beautiful "You Must Believe in Spring".

Bill Evans harmonizes the melody using exquisite voice leading. The transcription can be found in "The Artistry of Bill Evans".

Here I play the head.
Thanks for listening.

https://app.box.com/s/52sprkjnrybkezr1l4zm

#2263162 - 04/17/14 04:18 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Cus! What a nice transcription that is! Wow! And you sound great!

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Thanks very much Mark.
Maybe I will start learning Bill's remarkable solo too, even A and B secs, if it becomes too time consuming.

#2263993 - 04/19/14 08:29 AM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Cus,

What a challenge you set yourself !! This really does sound great. If it were me, I might just pick a really small part of this and work it out up to tempo. And then try to apply it to 2 or 3 other ballads. Probably in 1 or 2 keys.

Since you are not on Fb, here's my submission this week, which is you don't know what love is. I think you might have enjoyed playing this.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...&theater&notif_t=video_processed

#2264283 - 04/19/14 06:48 PM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: knotty]  
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Hi Knots
Thanks for posting your You Don't Know What Love Is. I loved your relaxation, tone, LH movement and variety. It was super super gorgeous. You are right, I think I would like to learn this.

Thanks for your compliment on YMBIS.

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Cus,

If it were me, I might just pick a really small part of this and work it out up to tempo. And then try to apply it to 2 or 3 other ballads. Probably in 1 or 2 keys.



Do you mean a small section of the head or the solo ?

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I think you would like to pay these short tunes because you get to apply all the cool concepts you've been working on.

To answer your question...
Anything you like. Some sort of concept, run, lick, whatever.
After all the work you did on this, you may hear the piece in all sorts of new ways. Maybe there's one thing that you particularly like.

#2264478 - 04/20/14 06:09 AM Re: Chorales for CATS [Re: custard apple]  
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Hey chris-cat
Thanks for your cool advice.

I tried applying this typical #5 Bill Evans voicing followed by an arp, to a dominant chord in ATTYA.
https://app.box.com/s/n17mqlwus2f9s3s9tupy

It's difficult to think in terms of another key, but as you said, it produces all sorts of interesting sounds.

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Cus, that arp is a really good thing to pick out. If you put the G up an octave you have C# maj7b5. That's a starting place for fun. The inner voices can move one at a time or both together. So that C# maj7b5 could go to C# maj7 and then back to C# maj7b5.

That's one example but it shows how the inner voices can move so G# is perfectly acceptable over the A7 chord.

Try arpeggiatting C# maj7b5 to to C# maj7 to C# maj7#5 and then back to C# maj7 and then back to C# maj7 b5. The outer voice can move as well.

If it's not clear I can add more detail ....

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Originally Posted by Mark Polishook
Cus, that arp is a really good thing to pick out. If you put the G up an octave you have C# maj7b5. That's a starting place for fun. The inner voices can move one at a time or both together. So that C# maj7b5 could go to C# maj7 and then back to C# maj7b5.

That's one example but it shows how the inner voices can move so G# is perfectly acceptable over the A7 chord.

Try arpeggiatting C# maj7b5 to to C# maj7 to C# maj7#5 and then back to C# maj7 and then back to C# maj7 b5. The outer voice can move as well.

If it's not clear I can add more detail ....


Thanks Mark as I had no idea how to apply the b5.
The inner voice movement sounds really cool and interesting.
Is this what you mean ?

https://app.box.com/s/0u3iaw8d4spj3jttqx05

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Hi there CATS
Here I play Freu' dich sehr, o meine Seele (Vergl. Nr.256).
https://app.box.com/s/186nvhc0l0esnkcuwk9c

Thank you for listening.

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Cus, THAT is really nice playing!

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Thanks very much Mark.
This was a really difficult one for me to achieve legato as the spans were so large, even passing my thumbs around was hard.

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very nice Cus. Easily your best one yet. A lot of work went into this! ;-)

Here's my weekly vid if you are interested:
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Hey Knots
Thank you for your compliment.

I love your weekly vids. Great groove and tone, very entertaining.

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Question: I see you guys are also jazz players. I would like to learn some things about playing jazz; I wonder if any of you could help me out?


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What genre of jazz do you like ?/ Which are your favorite jazz artists ?

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Hi Poly,
We can try and help.

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