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#2152236 - 09/17/13 02:57 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Don't have time to go out with friends.


Pfft. You seem to have plenty of time to hang around here wink



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#2152248 - 09/17/13 03:15 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Pogorelich.]  
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Don't have time to go out with friends.

frown You don't have the time to be happy? But...then what's the point of living? Are your other enterprises of such import to society that you must sacrifice yourself before them? Um... frown If what you say is true as opposed to, say, "can't be arsed to go out with friends" then you need to reconsider your priorities. Even music does not come before love, or friendship, or happiness...I worry sometimes whether everyone here agrees...
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Don't have time to go out with friends.


Pfft. You seem to have plenty of time to hang around here wink

Yes, I suppose I mean what FSO said. I can't be arsed. ha

And of course music is more important than love or friendship, and it IS happiness.


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#2152251 - 09/17/13 03:19 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
And of course music is more important than love or friendship...

My god, so false...

Don't believe it, as tempting as it is! Down that path ultimately lies misery, I think...


-Jason


Beethoven op.110, Chopin op.27/2, Liszt Vallée d'Obermann
#2152252 - 09/17/13 03:22 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Kuanpiano]  
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Kuan,

At this early stage, this is actually pretty good. Congratulations.

As for the tempo, I too prefer a more lively tempo on places but it is a personal preference.

But, despite my avatar, the real problem for me is the digital piano. I know it from first hand experience with my two recordings on my site recorded on a digital. Believe me digital is a definite no for Chopin.

If possible, please post your next recording on an acoustic.
And also if possible do not study it on a digital.


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#2152257 - 09/17/13 03:26 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: beet31425]  
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Originally Posted by beet31425
Originally Posted by Polyphonist
And of course music is more important than love or friendship...

My god, so false...

Don't believe it, as tempting as it is! Down that path ultimately lies misery, I think...


-Jason

For me, it's true. For you it may be different.


Regards,

Polyphonist
#2152259 - 09/17/13 03:32 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
And of course music is more important than love or friendship...

My god, so false...

Don't believe it, as tempting as it is! Down that path ultimately lies misery, I think...


-Jason

For me, it's true. For you it may be different.


I feel bad for you. But usually this state of mind is just temporary.

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#2152264 - 09/17/13 03:33 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Pogorelich.]  
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Originally Posted by Pogorelich.
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
And of course music is more important than love or friendship...

My god, so false...

Don't believe it, as tempting as it is! Down that path ultimately lies misery, I think...


-Jason

For me, it's true. For you it may be different.


I feel bad for you. But usually this state of mind is just temporary.

I've had it since I was 12 years old. Call me insane. laugh


Regards,

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#2159168 - 09/28/13 04:08 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: beet31425]  
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Originally Posted by beet31425
Originally Posted by Polyphonist
And of course music is more important than love or friendship...

My god, so false... Don't believe it, as tempting as it is! Down that path ultimately lies misery, I think...


I know !!!! sick

But there's absolutely no reason why you can't have it all...music, love AND friendship. grin

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#2159179 - 09/28/13 04:27 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Carey]  
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Originally Posted by carey
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And of course music is more important than love or friendship...

My god, so false... Don't believe it, as tempting as it is! Down that path ultimately lies misery, I think...


I know !!!! sick

But there's absolutely no reason why you can't have it all...music, love AND friendship. grin

I'm a lover of music. That's music and love. Friendship I'm not so keen on.


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#2159184 - 09/28/13 04:41 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist

I'm a lover of music. That's music and love. Friendship I'm not so keen on.


I feel the same.



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#2159219 - 09/28/13 05:50 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Kuanpiano]  
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For me, music is a life-enhancer. If I was the only person left on earth but was a brilliant musician, I would hate life.

#2159221 - 09/28/13 05:53 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: JoelW]  
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For me, music is a life-enhancer. If I was the only person left on earth but was a brilliant musician, I would hate life.

I would love it. I guess we're just different.


Regards,

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#2159237 - 09/28/13 06:07 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Kuanpiano]  
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Thanks for sharing, some really great playing! I almost always prefer a slightly slower tempo with few exceptions so I'm fine with what you're trying to do and the atmosphere you're creating. Fortunately you've got some great feedback on how to smooth it out. Some questions:

- You seem to have changed recording styles for the third movement. Did you just record it live this time? I can hear the keys thumping. I ask because I recently recorded that way and the key thumping can be quite loud on some digitals.

- What kind of digital are you using? (I use Roland RP301)

- Have you considered skipping the repeat in performance? I've heard a few versions that skip it and I think it works. Of course it's really nice to hear it again but I just wanted to state my opinion that the repeat is really not required here. (go easy on me)

Just to comment on the third movement, I thought it could be a bit more lyrical prior to the 1:30 mark. The left hand was sounding a bit percussive and uninspired in that section. But this might just be that thumping bugging me again.

By the way, I like the idea of recording on the digital piano and then playing it back. Never thought of that and it solves the key noise. I've found that sometimes the dynamic range does not come through. Or maybe I'm just not as good as I thought I was.

On another note, I like that you posted this 'practice' version. I noticed on my most recent recording that I make a lot of notes come out that I was unaware of. Or a section that I thought sounded wrong in a professional recording was really just WRONG ON MY END. Good luck in your performance.

#2159247 - 09/28/13 06:16 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
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For me, music is a life-enhancer. If I was the only person left on earth but was a brilliant musician, I would hate life.

I would love it. I guess we're just different.


I seriously doubt that. We're social animals. No matter how introverted you are, you still need SOME human contact. It's our nature. If you didn't, you wouldn't be on these forums all the time. wink

#2159252 - 09/28/13 06:25 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: ChopinAddict]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist

I'm a lover of music. That's music and love. Friendship I'm not so keen on.


I feel the same.


I guess you just haven't met many decent human beings. That's too bad.



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#2159255 - 09/28/13 06:26 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: JoelW]  
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Originally Posted by JoelW
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For me, music is a life-enhancer. If I was the only person left on earth but was a brilliant musician, I would hate life.

I would love it. I guess we're just different.


I seriously doubt that. We're social animals. No matter how introverted you are, you still need SOME human contact. It's our nature. If you didn't, you wouldn't be on these forums all the time. wink
How do you really know it's our nature? You know(or think you know) it's your nature, but really all you know about the world is what you see from your perspective...

#2159258 - 09/28/13 06:28 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Kuanpiano]  
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I want to quote Dostoyevsky in this, he said something like: "I love humanity so much that I hate avery single person. In order to love humanity one must hate every single person, but in order to love every single person, one must hate humanity" Or, he didn't say it, but one of his characters from The Brothers Of Karamazov(a MUST READ) did.

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#2159266 - 09/28/13 06:33 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Franz Beebert]  
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Originally Posted by Franz Beebert
How do you really know it's our nature?


For the same reason I know oranges are orange.

#2159278 - 09/28/13 06:49 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: JoelW]  
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#2159279 - 09/28/13 06:50 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: ChopinAddict]  
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Originally Posted by ChopinAddict


Missing the point!

#2159281 - 09/28/13 06:53 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Kuanpiano]  
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I actually don't have the energy right know to argue how you really know that oranges are orange in the same way for me as they are for you... wink

Anyway, how can one not love people, friendships, relations, humanity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvwRXaSbfVY

Remarkable man...

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Anyway, I enjoyed this book...



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At any rate, Polyphonist and ChopinAddict are not as anti-social as they thinks they are. If they were they wouldn't be here on the forums.

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How about the outsider? I think that book would suit you ChopinAddict. I see nothing wrong with wanting to be alone. If you do want to be alone, I accept that. But I doubt you dislike humans or humanity... You say you love music, music created by the human spirit. Through music, you communicate with yours and others human spirits.

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Originally Posted by JoelW
At any rate, Polyphonist is not as anti-social as he thinks he is. If he was he wouldn't be here on the forums.

Now this is just a joke; but haven't you heard of Anti-social personality disorder? wink (Now that's a completely different thing though, I really don't think Polyphonist is a psycopath)

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#2159294 - 09/28/13 07:02 PM Re: Chopin - Piano Sonata op. 58 mov.1 - Practice recording [Re: Kuanpiano]  
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Anyway, the IMPORTANT thing now is for EVERYBODY to listen to Muhammad Ali and to read The Brothers Of Karamazov! wink

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Yes, sometimes people want to be alone, but this doesn't mean they dislike humanity. Sometimes they just don't connect.



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Originally Posted by ChopinAddict
Yes, sometimes people want to be alone, but this doesn't mean they dislike humanity. Sometimes they just don't connect.


You don't have ANY friends? 1, or 2 that you connect with??

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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Originally Posted by carey
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And of course music is more important than love or friendship...
My god, so false... Don't believe it, as tempting as it is! Down that path ultimately lies misery, I think...

I know !!!! sick But there's absolutely no reason why you can't have it all...music, love AND friendship. grin
I'm a lover of music. That's music and love. Friendship I'm not so keen on.


"Loving music" is not the same thing as loving or being friends with another human being. Ideally, we should experience both kinds of love during our lives. (Just my opinion, of course.) smile


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I have a couple of Internet friends, but not in "real life".



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