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Possible Yamaha CP4 in the future?
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I haven't received my October issue of Keyboard yet, but I've heard that in addition to seeing MOXF6/8 ads there is also an ad for an upcoming CP4 stage piano. Can someone who has the October issue of Keyboard please confirm this. This would be great news if Yamaha finally updated the CP5 in a positive way!


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I did notice that Sweetwater no longer has the CP5.

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Yup (as in Yes). Price, official introduction, when it actually hits the stores : all still a mystery ...

What I personally am really (!) curious about is how this affects the introduction dates of competing new products from the other brands , like Roland and Kawai. Will they jump in earlier than they wanted , because of Yammies new products, or still wait until current stock sinks below a certain threshold ? I hope for sooner releases - products must be ready for launch you'd expect, after such a long time since the previous major product updates (MP series, RD series).

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Interesting. I thought that Yamaha had exhausted its ability to use irrational, confusing product numbers.

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Originally Posted by Jake Jackson
Interesting. I thought that Yamaha had exhausted its ability to use irrational, confusing product numbers.

They haven't even gotten gotten to the irrational numbers yet. Give them time. "Check out the new Yamaha CP-Pi today!"

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Unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat, RD-700NX will still be king.

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Originally Posted by JFP
Yup (as in Yes). Price, official introduction, when it actually hits the stores : all still a mystery ...

What I personally am really (!) curious about is how this affects the introduction dates of competing new products from the other brands , like Roland and Kawai. Will they jump in earlier than they wanted , because of Yammies new products, or still wait until current stock sinks below a certain threshold ? I hope for sooner releases - products must be ready for launch you'd expect, after such a long time since the previous major product updates (MP series, RD series).


Thanks JFP for the confirmation! I really am interested to see what Yamaha does with this one. The CP5 is a great instrument, just a little too heavy and the Acoustic Pianos needed more work. The electric pianos are stellar!

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I did notice that Sweetwater no longer has the CP5.


I checked and noticed that too. I suppose we will find out by the end of this month hopefully. If there is already an ad for the CP4 in an October issue, there should be some announcement this month.


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So, no CP6?

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Here's a little exercise: think of the major things that irritated you about the CP5. Then imagine what a listening manufacturer might do about them.

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Originally Posted by voxpops
Here's a little exercise: think of the major things that irritated you about the CP5. Then imagine what a listening manufacturer might do about them.

Btw, nice kitty pic, Plinky88! wink


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Originally Posted by Rhodie73
I haven't received my October issue of Keyboard yet, but I've heard that in addition to seeing MOXF6/8 ads there is also an ad for an upcoming CP4 stage piano. Can someone who has the October issue of Keyboard please confirm this. This would be great news if Yamaha finally updated the CP5 in a positive way!


I received it today. The ad for the CP4 with Chuck Leavell is on the second last page.


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Dare I say it? Pics or it didn't happen.


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I don't have big expectations, it's Yamaha. Marketing/Cost control department has been winning over R&D for quite a long time...


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Originally Posted by jarosujo
I don't have big expectations, it's Yamaha. Marketing/Cost control department has been winning over R&D for quite a long time...


Well there might be just one or two interesting new things but your mostly correct ....


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Well , the specs are almost always repacked and refilled familiar soundsets of the brand (same goes for Roland etc) ; what makes it interesting for people gigging is : size, weight , price, overall usefulness of sounds and hardware. So even if a product is not revolutionary in any way, improvements that can make the live of a musician more easy and fun will still sell the board to the public, no matter what.

Recycling , repackaging , stepwise improvements (or even cutback in features as we've seen several times these years); all nothing exiting or new. Whenever you are in need of another board though , you're still happy at least 'some' details have been reworked for the better.

IMHO real interesting stuff will most probably come from small startups and not from the well-known brands that sit comfortably on their butt in this marked.

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Weren't the two biggest knocks on the CP5 the size / weight and the ( initially, without reading the manual first ( sometimes multiple times ) ) non-intuitive user interface? Have they fixed those with the CP4? Or is it a different animal / niche altogether?


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Weight : yes, Size: maybe, Interface: nobody knows (yet)

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Could somebody maybe paste the ad so we can stop speculating about the features? Thanks in advance!

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