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D. H. Baldwin C172
#2140812 08/29/13 01:56 PM
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So I've been searching thru these forums and other sites trying to find the definitive answer about the quality, value, history, and specifications of my D. H. Baldwin C172 Grand Piano serno 58249.

I have seen everything from its a mediocre piano made by Korean Sammick to bluebookofpianos.com where it says the original value has increased from 7k to 12k???

"RESALE PRICES of USED GRAND PIANOS 1985 - 1995

These brand names listed here accounted for over 97% of all Grand Pianos sold in the United States during the last 20 years. Used, in excellent condition - some are worth more than original price. These models shown here represent more than 94% of that majority. Not all brand names are listed and some current prices are withheld by request of the manufacturer, who they feel pricing should be done by their dealers, there is no comment regarding these instruments, we are simply honoring that factory's request.
BRAND NAME MODEL SIZE 1985 1995
BALDWIN D.H./ HOWARD C172 5'8" $7,100 $12,184"

Can someone please set the record straight?

Thanks!!!!!!

Re: D. H. Baldwin C172
Don Ivie #2140818 08/29/13 02:13 PM
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Hi Don, and welcome to Piano World!

I almost bought a D.H. Baldwin G172 (5’8”) back when I was shopping around for a first baby grand. In my research, like you, I found out that the piano was not a “real” Baldwin, and was indeed made by Samick in Korea and sold by Baldwin dealers as a lower price-point, entry level grand.

I my case, I was going to pay the seller's asking price, without negotiations, ($3000) and paid him a down payment/earnest money until I could have the piano moved, at which time I was to pay the balance in cash. This was on a Saturday evening. After I thought I had secured the purchase of the piano, and scheduled a mover to move the piano that following Tuesday, the seller called me that Sunday evening and said his soon to be X-wife had decided not to sell the piano. A few days later, the same piano was back on Craigslist for $4500 (originally advertised for $3000) with the same phone number.

I was very disappointed initially, not because I missed out on the piano, but the way the seller handled the situation. All he had to do was be honest with me and tell me straight up he wanted more money for the piano than he had advertised it for… but that is another story.

However, fate was on my side (some call that being blessed smile ). I ended up with a better piano for not much more money and enjoyed the heck out of it until I upgraded again.

All that said, the asking prices you mentioned are way high in my view. I still think that is a $3000 piano, only if it is in excellent condition.

My advice to you is worth about what it cost. smile

Good luck!

Rick


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Re: D. H. Baldwin C172
Don Ivie #2140824 08/29/13 02:27 PM
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A 2nd line 5'8" grand from the mid-80's will never be worth that amount in the open market. Just for reference, $12k today can buy you a new piano that size that's better than that used one, with a warranty.


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Don Ivie #2140828 08/29/13 02:35 PM
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It's hard for me to believe it's not worth more than that. It sounds absolutely amazing, the construction seems solid as a rock and it looks beautifully crafted with a gorgeous mahogany finish. I guess I should get an appraisal but not sure what good that will do other than satisfy my curiosity lol

Any idea how to tell when it was manufactured? And are all C172's 5'8"?

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Don Ivie #2140894 08/29/13 05:19 PM
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The numbers in the model probably represent the size in centimeters, so it rounds to 5'8".

If you love how it plays, and you're going to keep it, don't worry so much about what the piano is worth (unless for an insurance appraisal). Unlike the hype you read in various places on the internet, the vast majority of pianos don't appreciate in value. Keep in mind that an online appraisal, without actually inspecting the condition of the piano in-person, is basically pointless. You'd do better hiring a technician who has an awareness of the current piano market (has some familiarity with the retail and resale market in your area) to do a more personalized appraisal.

Pianos from the 1980's from Korea were pretty new to our market at that time, and were not well-received at first by pianists and technicians (think back to when Korean cars first came to the US, and the great strides in quality, elegance, and performance they've made since then). This is only a generalization, and I'm sure there are some isolated examples of a great instrument or model out there - hopefully yours is one of them.

Perhaps a someone on the forum with a Pierce Piano Atlas will respond with a build date based on the serial number you've provided. I'm sorry I don't have one handy.


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