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#2139807 - 08/27/13 05:53 PM 5'10 Haddorff grand piano  
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Hello!

I'm a piano teacher looking at purchasing a Haddorff 5'10" grand. I'm guessing it was made in the 40's. It was in a church building for about 30 years before my piano tuner/tech bought it for his home in 1976. Since then, he's tuned it every 6 months, as I imagine it was while he was in the church.

At any rate, today my tuner offered to sell it to me for $3500. I haven't been over to play it yet, but I know he's loved it well and kept it in good condition.

A grand piano is a little extravagant for me as I only teach around 10 students at a time, but it's something I've always wanted, and would sure beat my little spinet. I do have space for it. Thoughts?

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#2139813 - 08/27/13 06:07 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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Hi jsusu, and welcome to Piano World!

I can tell you are excited about the prospect of the Haddorff baby grand piano. We can feel your excitement! smile

That is a nice size baby grand too.

I don't know much about the brand, but I honestly think the price is a little high. But, if you like it when you look at it and play it, your intuition will kick in and you will know what to do.

Have you looked around at other possible prospects in your area?

Gook luck and keep us informed!

Rick


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#2139815 - 08/27/13 06:11 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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I'm surprised that you teach on a spinet. I don't mean this in a derisive way AT ALL; it's just that, as an amateur, I've always viewed teachers as experts with the best of the best instruments available for their work.

The only acoustic I've ever had was a spinet, actually!

OT:

Go try the piano and see if you like it first. Second, I think it's worth hiring an independent technician to inspect the piano, even if you trust your tech and have a good relationship with him. He may have kept it in good condition, but when buying a piano so old, you want to make sure it'll last, too.

It seems like a good deal, assuming it's still robust and it passes your tests for tone and touch.


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#2139818 - 08/27/13 06:21 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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Yeah, my sad little piano was handed down to me and I've never been in the position to upgrade. I do keep it tuned, but it's kind of embarrassing to teach on it. That's one of the reasons I pass my students on to another teacher after a certain level.

I'm not necessarily in a great position to purchase now, except he's agreed to take a good deposit and let us make payments, interest free, on the rest. So I haven't shopped around for several years, and never for more than a studio upright. I'm totally out of my depth here.

Thanks!

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#2139879 - 08/27/13 08:46 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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Hi jsuru,

Haddorff pianos were built in Rockford, IL from the turn of the 19th century to about 1960. After WWII they were owned by Kimball, but I think the company functioned independently. They were popular throughout the mid-west and are well built instruments.

As with all instruments, the most important thing is the condition. Considering its age, it may need a fair amount of work, but it could still be a very playable and functional instrument. Like Rick said, the price seems a bit high, but that is just a guess without seeing and playing the piano.

Put the piano through some major paces and make sure that there are no major problems. Find out if there has been any maintenance, like new hammers or strings, rather than just tuning.

Find out if your tuner/tech will agree to an independent inspection. You will then know the condition of the piano and also what similar instruments are selling for in your area.

Good Luck.


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#2139880 - 08/27/13 08:48 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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I'd certainly go over and play it. Also go to a store and play some others so you have a recent reference to compare.

Best wishes!


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#2139890 - 08/27/13 09:06 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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Marty, you certainly know your piano history! smile

I actually played an older Kimball 5'9" baby grand today, and I was surprised at how well it sounded and played. Most of the comments I've read here on the PW forum about Kimballs has been rather negative. Guess it just goes to show that you can't always believe everything you read on the internet. smile

To jsuru: Well, since the piano tech/seller is willing to take a small down payment and let you make payments, interest free, that is certainly something of value; the piano, and the special payment arrangements, may be worth the premium.

I hope it all works out!

Rick


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#2139902 - 08/27/13 09:31 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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Actually Rick, it's called a reference book collection.

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#2139905 - 08/27/13 09:40 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
Actually Rick, it's called a reference book collection. grin

Well, after all, you are a soon-to-be (if not already) Ph.D. smile

Rick


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#2139911 - 08/27/13 09:59 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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I've played a restored Hardorff grand of about that size, and it was one of the most enjoyable small grands I've seen in recent memory. Condition is everything, and while the potential of this piano is great, it may or may not be a good deal for you. If it's in original condition, I think the asking price is too high.

#2139933 - 08/27/13 11:03 PM Re: 5'10 Haddorff grand piano [Re: jsuru]  
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I know my tech has restored many pianos, so I'll ask him in greater depth what the history of this one is. Thanks for all the advice! I'm going to go over and take it for a test run Friday.


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