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#2139494 - 08/27/13 01:53 AM Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions  
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Hello,

So I got a piano and started taking lessons a couple months ago with the intention of playing mainly Classical. I was giben this Chopin piece to work on over the summer break. Was just wondering if any more experienced pianists could share their thoughts or suggestions on it.

https://soundcloud.com/brett-hunt-4/chopin-prelude-op-28-no-4

Cheers,
Brett

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#2139549 - 08/27/13 05:55 AM Re: Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions [Re: brmc2tt]  
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What advice, specifically, are you looking for relating to this piece? Do you need technical advice? An analysis of the score? Recommended recordings? Tips for interpretation? Any specific areas in the piece you want help on?


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#2139802 - 08/27/13 06:47 PM Re: Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions [Re: brmc2tt]  
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I'm getting suspicious that this is another case of PADS, which seems to be spreading rapidly nowadays.


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#2141082 - 08/30/13 12:39 AM Re: Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions [Re: brmc2tt]  
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Ahem...PADS it is. I now bow out of this dying thread.


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#2149748 - 09/13/13 11:24 PM Re: Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions [Re: Polyphonist]  
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What is pads? And ism studying this piece as well and the last 3 chords sound off, no?

#2150279 - 09/14/13 10:36 PM Re: Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions [Re: PianoGamer]  
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I have no idea. And yes, I was playing the last three chords an octave too high and I wasn't voicing the top note so that's probably why they sound off lol. I've had some help from my teacher with this piece and I'm not satisfied at all with this recording anymore. Maybe I will do an improved recording soon.

Regards!

#2150308 - 09/15/13 12:20 AM Re: Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions [Re: PianoGamer]  
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Originally Posted by PianoGamer
What is pads?

Post and Disappear Syndrome. ha (It's not my term, it was coined by some other member. I forget who.)

Anyway, it looks like this wasn't really a case of PADS. All it was was the more mild PDDARS. grin


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Polyphonist
#2305373 - 07/22/14 01:08 PM Re: Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions [Re: brmc2tt]  
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Thoughts or suggestions?

I played this one a while back. Although relatively one of the easier pieces in terms of technique and physical demand, it is a very beautifully and emotionally crafted work. Sets the mood to any night and can bring out any mixture of somber or just relaxed atmosphere depending on how you play it/interpret it.

The key to this piece is the left hand repeated chords. You really have to focus on the phrasing lines of the chords. Pay close attention to that (not that you shouldnt in any piece, but I usually dont as much due to stresses of focusing on other aspects of a piece, usually rhythm and note-reading) on how you swell and ebb and flow the left hand ryhthm not to make it too on-beat. If you know what I mean. Also works best with a case of rubato on the right hand melody a bit ...which always works well on any chopin anyways.



Also, the climax measures are of typical chopin quirkiness (or melodic cheesiness as I see it <regarding Chopin>) so I tend to play it softer and ritardando than what it says (dynamically play stronger) on the high note after the turn. That way if you play it amongst a coffee crowd at night it doesnt really startle them ..but just continues with a sort of jazzy flow instead.

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#2305582 - 07/22/14 07:32 PM Re: Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions [Re: brmc2tt]  
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This piece is a favorite of mine and I remember my mother playing it for me when I was six! I play it regularly and still love it.

I like a slightly slower pace and some rubato.

In addition, the left hand chords need to be crisply precise, without any ripples.

The right hand should be much louder than the left hand and the melody should be prominent.

Beyond that, I think a lot of practice, listening to your own recording of the piece, and listening to other versions of the piece are all helpful.


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#2305584 - 07/22/14 07:36 PM Re: Chopin Prelude Op.28 No.4 - Suggestions [Re: brmc2tt]  
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I just listened to the soundcloud recording and felt it was very presentable! Nice job!

A little more rubato perhaps but that comes down to individuality. And the final three chords are an octave lower, I believe.

Listen to this, my favorite recording of this piece, by Sergio Tiempo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUOIzCeSIY

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