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Originally Posted by ScottM
It's not bad, but at measure 9 there is a missed opportunity. The tonality tries to change or modulate to a more interesting center and you refuse to let it happen. I think it's a shame, since the first 8 measures are very promising. At measure 9 I have a strong sense you are taking an easy way out, and the rest of the piece suffers badly for it.


Pay close attention to the way the tonality varies in the piece. Certain harmonies shift for two reasons: 1, to give harmonic variation. 2, to effectively lead up to the climax.

With that being said, you are welcome to improve it.

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By the way, the D# in bar 41 should be an Eb.


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Here are couple clips where I went a little past measure 9 to show what I mean. These are not necessarily the best or the only alternatives, but they show how the piece can be kept from becoming too harmonically static. Of course there is no expression in these Finale performances.

http://snd.sc/15knYJC
http://snd.sc/1c40xpM



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Originally Posted by ScottM
Here are couple clips where I went a little past measure 9 to show what I mean. These are not necessarily the best or the only alternatives, but they show how the piece can be kept from becoming too harmonically static. Of course there is no expression in these Finale performances.

http://snd.sc/15knYJC
http://snd.sc/1c40xpM



It's interesting, but I don't agree with either of these examples. I improvised the melody on a whim and the harmonies are just what I hear in my head. They match the melody for what it is. I wasn't going to force tonal variations for the sake of tonal variations. I wrote what came to me. But I appreciate your criticism.

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It's also very hard to accept a new direction when your brain is used to hearing what you've already done. Music tends to become imprinted in our heads. So I'm not bothered by your reaction. I expected it!


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I prefer Joel's original to both of Scott's suggestions, but I still think it can be improved.


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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
I still think it can be improved.


Look, a finished piece of music is what it is. I'm very careful when crafting my music and I make sure every note is just the way I want it. If there is an element that you feel can be improved, improve it, come back and post it. Really, please do.

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Well, especially for a two page prelude, if I may say so, the most probable room for improvement is getting on with a new prelude!

As I understand it, these preludes mostly serve the purpose of studying for Joel (And I hope that Joel is picking up enough information from this forum), and not much else. He's very eager to listen (YAY) and very eager to change his habits which is awesome on its own.

Not much else to talk about now in this thread.

looking forward to your next work Joel!

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Originally Posted by JoelW
Originally Posted by Steve Chandler
I like this piece but agree it should be 3/8 or 6/8. The 3/4 of a Chopin Ballade is a major work whereas this is a little prelude, but then again I'm more of a black note composer. This just looks too pale to me.


What's that to do with time signatures?

Joel,

You (and maybe a few others) misunderstood me. By black notes I meant quarters, eighths and sixteenths, the more flags the blacker. I'm referring to rhythmic measures, not black notes on the keyboard. Does that make more sense?


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Digging up an old thread here. Recently I felt the need to revise this piece because it is permanently on my IMSLP page and the original, after two years, had apparent problems (and the score is hideous). The new score will replace the old one on IMSLP.

Here is the revised piece.

https://www.docdroid.net/ZPas85W/prelude-in-g-major.pdf.html

http://picosong.com/QaDe/


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I still think it can be improved.


Look, a finished piece of music is what it is. I'm very careful when crafting my music and I make sure every note is just the way I want it. If there is an element that you feel can be improved, improve it, come back and post it. Really, please do.

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Far superior to the first version.

You've learned a lot since then.


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It's really good, I wish it was longer though. The progressions and the harmonies are great, and the melody is nice too

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