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#2134128 - 08/16/13 11:51 PM How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics  
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#2134175 - 08/17/13 03:17 AM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: shirlkirsten]  
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#2134272 - 08/17/13 09:40 AM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: shirlkirsten]  
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There are too many good arrangements out there to give students any bad ones.


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#2134604 - 08/17/13 11:58 PM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: shirlkirsten]  
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I agree with the OP.


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#2137278 - 08/22/13 03:19 PM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: shirlkirsten]  
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I personally am ok with giving elementary students easy versions of the late intermediate/advanced classics. Plus, some 'classics' they love were not even for piano.

Once they are early intermediate level I do not give watered down versions of the music. I also find they do not want them unless they can play the real one.


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#2137325 - 08/22/13 05:23 PM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: shirlkirsten]  
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There are arrangements of the classics which build on the original. The Russian pianist Volodos provides a rich variety of these at the highest level, both pianistic and musically. Here's one brilliant example. Mozart would have loved this!

Then there are simplifications. Most of these are gut wrenchingly poor imitations and I, for one, avoid them like the plague.


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#2137352 - 08/22/13 06:41 PM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: shirlkirsten]  
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When I run into simplifications of classics (and there are several of them in contemporary method books) I tend to skip them. Or I just mock them. For every good simplification, you'll find 99 really bad ones. I have found a few tasteful arrangements of Joplin and church music, so I've taught those.


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#2138728 - 08/25/13 11:32 AM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: shirlkirsten]  
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young beginner student working out of SWP method series (Helen Marlais).
In book 1 there is an arrangement of the theme from Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu. Of course it's extremely watered down to be in the first book.
Young beginner student loved the melody and asks to play it with me (duet is in the book) frequently. Her parents found youtube recordings of the piece for her to listen to. She is curious and excited about Chopin. Not a bad thing.


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#2138749 - 08/25/13 12:38 PM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: Barb860]  
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If it were titled "A Melody by Chopin" or something similar, then fine, but if it's titled Fantasy Impromptu, then it's truly disingenuous.


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#2138798 - 08/25/13 02:08 PM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: John v.d.Brook]  
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Originally Posted by John v.d.Brook
If it were titled "A Melody by Chopin" or something similar, then fine, but if it's titled Fantasy Impromptu, then it's truly disingenuous.


Yes, I agree.


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#2138906 - 08/25/13 05:33 PM Re: How do teachers feel about ARRANGEMENTS of the Classics [Re: shirlkirsten]  
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I think good arrangements of classics are good.

I think bad arrangements of classics are bad.


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